Trip to range today, what you folks preach works.

[cpt dan blodgett]

Posted this by mistake in BROW.

Took my 2 Pietta NMAs 20 y/o and 2 y/o and a mixed pair Old Uberti and Brand New Pietta.
Four cylinders each for the NMAs, Treso nipples and 10 rem caps.  Results 40 first time booms.

The 1860s have uberti and pietta nipples repectively.
First cylinder with uberti 50% no bang first time all fired second go round with Rem 10s
Next cyinder 4 of 6 bangs 2 no goes.  2nd strike fail on both.  Replaced Caps, 1 went boom.  Other did nothing, ran cylinder around noting.  Replace Cap 2nd Time 2 strikes no boom.  Cease fire wait retry with CCI 11 finally boom

Pietta couple of no fires on first cylinder, think the 2nd did OK.  What with screwing with the uberti sorta lost track, bus seeing as it was a 44 cap and ball the most (not) powerful civil war hand gun do you feel lucky.

Take home lesson Tresso Nipples and #10 remington caps work, other nipples??? Other caps???

Other lesson Remingtons shoot more or less where you point them at 10 yards, 1860 armies shoot maybe a foot high at that range.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Posted this by mistake in BROW.

Took my 2 Pietta NMAs 20 y/o and 2 y/o and a mixed pair Old Uberti and Brand New Pietta.
Four cylinders each for the NMAs, Treso nipples and 10 rem caps.  Results 40 first time booms.

The 1860s have uberti and pietta nipples repectively.
First cylinder with uberti 50% no bang first time all fired second go round with Rem 10s
Next cyinder 4 of 6 bangs 2 no goes.  2nd strike fail on both.  Replaced Caps, 1 went boom.  Other did nothing, ran cylinder around noting.  Replace Cap 2nd Time 2 strikes no boom.  Cease fire wait retry with CCI 11 finally boom

Pietta couple of no fires on first cylinder, think the 2nd did OK.  What with screwing with the uberti sorta lost track, bus seeing as it was a 44 cap and ball the most (not) powerful civil war hand gun do you feel lucky.

Take home lesson Tresso Nipples and #10 remington caps work, other nipples??? Other caps???

Other lesson Remingtons shoot more or less where you point them at 10 yards, 1860 armies shoot maybe a foot high at that range.

Cap'n Dan,

Historically, the 1860 (with the itty-bitty semi-blade front sight) was sighted in at 75 yards.  10 yards wasn't the needed range.  It's a history thing.

Back then, only the Army Officers & NCOs and Cavalry were issued revolvers.  (Key word: issued - others could have them, if they wanted and could afford them)

During the same time frame, the standard doctrine was to line up opposite the enemy about 200 yards away.  Also by doctrine, the Infantry soldier was required to (starting with a loaded rifle) fire, then reload and fire 3 more times in one minute.  In that same one minute, the other guys who were charging could go from their starting distance of 200 yds. to about 75 yds.  Then, they were given the order (by the Officers & NCOs) to "fix bayonets."  After that order was given, the Officers & NCOs had 6 shots at the charging enemy while the rest of the men fixed their bayonets to their rifles.

See how the 200 yds., 6 shots, 75 yds., & rifle loading drill all work together?  History.

Back then, the Remington had shorter front sights than most of the repros do now, and I think they were sighted in at 50 yds., not 75.  Pietta especially now puts higher sights on their guns (from listening to CAS shooters) and maybe Uberti, too.  I don't think they've changed the 1860s, 'tho - for whatever reason.  Probably because it changes the "look" of the 1860 much more than the taller, post-type does on the  Remington, I suppose.  Look at the 1872 Open Top revolvers and you'll see the way a blade looks on a gun that came straight from the 1860 design.  It has a small blade sight, not the original as was on the 1860 or the bead on the 1851.

I have never seen this in print, but others have researched this ... I'm just spreading the knowledge.

[cpt dan blodgett]

Let me see if I am getting this right.  Aim for the Belly Button if at 75 yard = gut shot = dead. if at 100, wont have kids and will wish they are dead. if at less than 75 varies between gut shot and heart shot = still dead.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Yeppir!  Or aim center of mass of the chest and maybe have a zombie-killing head shot.

Head shot = dead

[fourfingersofdeath]

I don't normally shoot IPSC, but our club held a Christmas shoot a few weeks ago and we bought a bunch of Zombie targets. I was using my 1911 Colt in 38 Super. The scenario was a couple of targets outside a dark room and then three targets inside and there were two of those with a hostage in front, which you had to identify in the gloom. The kill zone for all targets were all head shots. The buzzer went off and I shot a credible time for an old fart with not much IPSC experience.

Trouble is, six and a half years of Army and twenty three and a half years of Law Enforcement (Corrections) weapond training clicked in and my targets were all destroyed with a centre of mass shot. D'Oh!

The range re-opened today and I was back shooting one of my ROAs! Used Remnington No10 caps for the first time, every shot went boom! Excellent. The first group (brand new 5.5" SS ROA)of five were all over the place, mostly high (my fault I think, you have to concentrate with stainless sights or you lose the foresight), The second group was excellent and on point of aim at about 12-15yards. Used Hornady round balls, approx 32Gns WANO (all you can buy in Australia at the momentr it seems) ffg and as I said, the Remmy No10s. Then a new member arrived, I ran her through the ground strokes, she shot a group out of my old 22 Browning and then the bum dropped out of the sky, causing us to pack up shop. Didn't get many shots away, but good to start the year making flame and smoke!

[cpt dan blodgett]

Was in Australia on R&R back in 1970.  Took the train from Sydney to Canberra and back was really pretty country.
Would really like to go back for a really long time maybe a year and take in most all of Australia and New Zealand.