Taylor's .31 Remington Pocket Revolver

Bottom Dealin Mike · May 19, 2013, 07:36:06 AM

Oops...In the video I say this gun is made by Uberti, but it is actually made by Pietta. My apologies. In 1865, with the civilian market for big bore swamped with surplus Civil War handguns, Remington developed a pocket-sized .31 caliber revolver for the concealed carry market. Today Taylor's & Company in Winchester, Virginia offers a replica of this little pistol, made by Pietta in Italy. In this video I'll put it through its paces in both cap & ball mode, and with the optional cartridge conversion cylinder chambered for .32 S&W cartridges.

litl rooster · May 19, 2013, 02:16:10 PM

I carry like three knifes on me, I never thought of using it to put the lube over my cylinders. Learn somethin' nu everyday

Nice little piece there

Dick Dastardly · May 19, 2013, 04:05:56 PM

Got me one of 'em lil pistols. It has a Kirst Konverter cylinder. Love that lil gun for pocket pistol side matches.

DD-MDA

WaddWatsonEllis · May 19, 2013, 04:28:37 PM

Hi,

A club I used to belong to the River City Regulators; they had a stage that required a pocket pistol ... and although I use a Model 4 '98 S&W in .32 S&W now, I used to own a heavily modified Pietta .31 Remington ... the previous owner had made from raw bar stock an enclosed trigger housing of solid brass and a Millington cylinder that fired .32 S&W out of two cylinders ... I finally sold it back to the original owner ...

Dick Dastardly · May 19, 2013, 04:45:23 PM

Not a whole lot of volume in that lil .32 S&&W brass. When I seat the DD 32-80 Big Lube bullets I can only get 3 grains of powder under 'em. So, I've been loading FFFg Tripple Seven. I know that sounds hot, but with only 3 grains, it does just fine. I'm tempted to get my hands on some Swiss Null B and give it a go. I know that the Kirst cylinder will handle the pressure and the steel frame is plenty strong. The question is, will there be any advantage? Let's face it, this is a "belly gun" and it isn't intended for distances over 25 feet. I would consider a 6" 25 yard pattern to be excellent.

DD-MDA

Coffinmaker · May 19, 2013, 11:27:01 PM

DD,

Nah. Not 25 feet. 6 - 10 feet is more like it. 3 to 4 inch group at 10 feet is excellent. Little pocket pistols from the era were intended to solve "issues" within the confines of a saloon. Saloons were small. So we're parlors.
Pocket pistols and so called "muff" pistols were expected to be a "last chance" act of desperation at conversation distance. If you can hit your intended victim, er, target at 6 feet ..... Your golden

Coffinmaker

Fox Creek Kid · May 20, 2013, 10:59:57 PM

Made to shoot people OFF of your person.

will52100 · May 21, 2013, 09:17:53 AM

I'd love to have one like that converted to a six shot 22LR with lined bore. Don't know what it'd cost but it'd be a cool little BBQ gun. Of course I'd have to get one in BP as well. They are cool little guns.

Sir Charles deMouton-Black · May 21, 2013, 09:37:18 AM

Quote from: will52100 on May 21, 2013, 09:17:53 AM
I'd love to have one like that converted to a six shot 22LR with lined bore. Don't know what it'd cost but it'd be a cool little BBQ gun. Of course I'd have to get one in BP as well. They are cool little guns.

You mean, just like a Bearcat?

The first conversion I ever saw was a '51 Navy repro done up in .22.

RickB · May 21, 2013, 11:46:08 AM

I need to get me one of these with the conversion cylinder. Looks like the pistol is available but the conversion cylinder isn't.

Maj.Bull S. Hitter · May 21, 2013, 01:15:45 PM

Called Taylor's today and they have the conversion cylinder at $210.00 . Been wanting to pick one up for sometime , as Howell Old West conversions has had them since before I called them in August. Just keep buying other things instead.

Dick Dastardly · May 21, 2013, 01:29:29 PM

Howdy Rick,

Walt Kirst hand fitted the cylinder to my .31 spur trigger Remington. He was going to offer the cylinders but the people making the pistols simply didn't/couldn't hold their tolerances accurate enough for a simple drop in fit. So, the cylinders were never offered on the open market. I'm just lucky to call Walt Kirst friend. The little gun is a gem and I won't part with it.

I do have a Big Lube bullet mold that is great with the .32S&W cartridge. It's the DD 32-80. This is the bullet I've been handloading for this gun.

DD-MDA

Maj.Bull S. Hitter · May 22, 2013, 01:21:24 PM

3 grs.. Bet you have to hold on with both hands to manage the "recoil".

DD, I was hoping you would come up with a 55 to say 60gr Big Lube for the .31 shooters. That I would think would leave enough room for say 7 maybe 8grs.. I know it most likely wouldn't work in the .32 Long or H&R cartridges to well.