Dixie has mutton tallow again

[will52100]

Just thought I'd let everybody know that Dixie has mutton tallow in stock again.  This time I stocked up enough to last me a while!

[john boy]

Will, what color and viscosity is their new batch of tallow?
* White and semi hard viscosity?
* Yellow/white and kind of slurpy?

[will52100]

white/yellow and it was a little slurpy when I got it, but then my AC is out and it's 80 deg. in the house.  Seems a little thinner than the batch I got back in 04.

[john boy]

Wills, that is the 2nd grade of mutton tallow.  The 1st grade stuff is almost pure white and semi hard viscosity
DON'T throw it out.  You'll be able to use it for lube

Trying to find a vendor that stocks the white tallow that comes off the fat on the kidneys and back strap is like hitting the lottery.  At least Dixie has tallow in stock cause no one else does

[Bottom Dealin Mike]

Keep your eyes on these guys. They are temporarily out of stock, but when they have it, their tallow is the best.

I've use four pounds of it so far and have four more pounds still in the freezer.

http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Detail.bok?no=719

[jbprince]

You could try:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Monument-262s-White-Tallow-Medium/dp/B0001P0FM2:

"Monument 262S Tub White Tallow Medium MON262

Best quality hard white tallow used as a lubricant when threading conduit pipe and when pulling electric cables through conduit.
Size Medium (Approx 0.5Kg) - about 1 lb." for about $5.00 US or

at:

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=6633 ($40.00 US)

Monument 263V Tub White Tallow Large
Best quality hard white tallow used as a lubricant when threading conduit pipe and when pulling electric cables through conduit.
Size Large (Approx 4Kg) - 8 pounds

Sullivan John

[john boy]

Mike, Grassland has been out of tallow since 2010
jb, those links are in England

[Mako]

Wills, that is the 2nd grade of mutton tallow.  The 1st grade stuff is almost pure white and semi hard viscosity
DON'T throw it out.  You'll be able to use it for lube

Trying to find a vendor that stocks the white tallow that comes off the fat on the kidneys and back strap is like hitting the lottery.  At least Dixie has tallow in stock cause no one else does

John Boy,
Do you remember the picture my daughter took back in May?  You never commented on them.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,35873.msg484668.html#msg484668



The partial tub was at least 3 years old when the picture was taken and possibly older.  It was the third tub I had ordered and I can't ever remember it looking any different than that.  I would guess the first tub I ordered was in '04 and I used to only order one at a time because I was afraid it would go rancid.  That older tub in the picture was not kept in a strictly controlled environment, it is heated and airconditioned when I am out there, but otherwise it's just an insulated shop that goes for weeks sometimes without me being in it.  I'm convinced the mutton tallow is pretty stable so I ordered 6 pounds in May and I have 3 pounds of it in the garage fridge and the remaining 2 pounds in the pantry where it will be in a stable temperature environment so it may last a very long time.

I also made a little over 2 3/4 pounds of standard lube which I suspect will last longer than unblended mutton tallow.  I need to determine a good way to do some accelerated aging studies to determine the best way to make that tallow last in case it gets hard to get again.  I think the base 1/1/.5 ratio base lube would be a good way to keep it since I only tend to make it stiffer instead of softer which I can do by adding beeswax or paraffin.

There is no odor difference between the old and new tallow and as far as color goes, the polypropylene surface on the lab top it's sitting on it looks a bit off white as well. It's actually a piece of white high density polypropylene which is not blazing white, but a dull buffed plastic white.  I think the picture color is a bit yellow, but the tallow is definitely not snow white.

Did Dixie go dry again on their supply since July, or are people just discovering it has been in stock for a few months again? Because I know pards who were ordering it in July and receiving it after I told them it was available.

Regards,
Mako

[john boy]

Mako, apologize for not replying to the old link.  But to make up for it, I just went outside and into the basement in my stocking feet for a snapshot of tallow that I have.    I had a couple of tubs of the really yellow slurpy stuff but used that for lubing my CAS 454190 bullets that I cast by the hundreds.  
Anyway, from Left to Right ...  



Left:  A tub that I bought from Dixie Firearms is 2008.  I classify it as the creme de la creme of mutton tallow.  White as snow and hard semi viscous.  It has been sitting under my workbench since 2008 - a very very slight non offensive odor and not rancid
Middle:  A tub that I bought from Dixie Firearms is 2009.  I classify it as 2nd grade mutton tallow.  Yellow but hard semi viscous.  It also has been sitting under my workbench since 2009 - a very very slight non offensive odor and not rancid
Both of the above have been in the basement: AC in the Summer and Heat during the Winter
Right:  A tub that I bought from Grassland in about the middle of 2010. Believe I probably got one of the last shipments from them.  All of these tubs were sent in a freezer pack and since then have been in the basement refrigerator.  I classify these as 1st grade (minus) - a dull white and hard semi viscous with no odor.  Probably due to the refrigeration.

The tubs of lube that I have made from mutton tallow and I have a couple that are 5ys old are stored under the basement workbench are not rancid or smelly

The tallow that folks are now receiving, I called Dixie last year because off the website I ordered 5 tubes (no out of stock) and waited and waited for the shipment.  They told me that had none in stock and didn't expect to receive any.   Since then I haven't been tracking if they got some and then folks said they received orders ... go figure

As for any lube ration using tallow, I wouldn't be afraid to use a high ratio.  For my CAS 45's I use a 40% ratio with 40% paraffin and 20% beeswax.  For my BPCR lube, the ratio is 65% -30% beeswax and 5% jojoba oil or meadow foam

[john boy]

How's this for a testament about mutton tallow:

Thuer breath
Free Grazer
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Re: Mutton Tallow
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Howdy John Boy..I got to thinkin..It seemed I put some of that  kidney-fat tallow away....got to digging in back shelves & found an old plastic container.  Opened up & there it was!  White as snow, firm wax like texture..and hardly any smell...after 18 years in basement!  Mixed up batch of pure beeswax & tallow 1 to 3 ratio.  Grin

[rickk]

The quicker you mix tallow with beeswax, the longer it will last. Adding the Pariffin probably helps as well.

As a maker of mead (honey wine), I have studied bee hives a bit.

Think about this... the whole hive is full of sugar products (i use the word sugar in the broadest sense), yet it does not decay.... think about that... think about that.

As far as the effects of paraffin, it also probably helps stabilize the whole mess as well. I have not done any studying of paraffin wax, but paraffin does not seem to deteriorate very quickly either, judging by the 50 year old box that was in my basement when I moved in here 20 years ago.