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Started by rugman, September 24, 2011, 06:29:48 PM

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rugman

Hi ya'll.  I'm rugman from the bayou's of Lousiana.  I stumbled across your sight awhile ago and since I've been in the market for an authentic Spencer I thought of no better place to join.  I think I've found a beautiful weapon and, of course, now I want to know all about it.  It bears serial #44999 and has a reddish looking stock with an inlaid eagle on one side and a wax impression on the other.  I'm thinking it must be a presentation piece as I can't imagine a cavalryman making those marks, of course, I could be wrong.  Two Fints, I have read your disclaimer and fully understand it.  Look at the pics I'm posting and if anyone has any ideas about this piece of history I would really appreciate hearing from you:


Two Flints

Hi Rugman,

Thanks for joining SSS.  Would like to see photos of the top of the receiver, clear and sharp, please.  Since you've read my disclaimer already, I won't have to re-type it for you ::)

Your Spencer Carbine serial # is 44999.  The closest serial # I have to yours is # 44998, a Spencer Carbine issued to a member of Company G, 3rd Iowa Volunteer Cavalry in 1865.

Hope this helps.

Two Flints

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rugman

Thanks Two Flints.  Tried to get a photo of the receiver but my camera couldn't focus on it.  However, it reads "SPENCER REPEATING RIFLE CO. BOSTON, MASS. PAT D MARCH 1860"
is it safe to assume since your records show the serial no. prior that the carbine I have was issued to the next man in line?

And what about the inlaid eagle? Ever seen one before? What is an explanation for it being on the buttstock?

nactorman

 No explanation for the eagle, but if you want a good online resource for info on the 3rd Iowa Cav you should see Mr. Gunter's website below:

http://www.iowa3rdcavalry.com/

The 3rd Iowa Cav took part in Wilson's Alabama-Georgia Raid (March-May 1865). The 948 troopers that began the campaign were armed with Spencers.

Beautiful piece, BTW.

Charles
"Nactorman"

Two Flints

Rugman,

You indicated that you read and understood my disclaimer.  Spencer serial # information is "incomplete at best".  A good number of the serial #s of the Spencer Carbines before and after yours were issued to the 3rd Iowa Cavalry. That's the best I can tell you.

I think I have seen the Eagle marking somewhere before.  Did you buy your Spencer on an online site? 

Good shooting with it.

Two Flints

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3/12 - 4th Inf Div
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Spencer Shooting Society (SSS) #4;
BOSS #62
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rugman

I understand that nothing can be determined for sure, just trying to make some assumptions that I shouldn't.  Thanks.

JimBob

Quote from: rugman on September 25, 2011, 12:12:26 PM
And what about the inlaid eagle? Ever seen one before? What is an explanation for it being on the buttstock?

The eagle is a U.S. pattern 1832 cap eagle.They were in use for a long period of time by Regular Army as well as militia and volunteer units.A good bet is that it is contempory to the rifle usage,placed there by a soldier with too much time on his hands.

rugman

Thanks JimBob that does ring a bell.  I'll do a little more research on that point and see what I can find out.

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