How do you do it..

[Cash Creek]

I know your don't use gun carts, so how do you carry you ammo from where ever you have it to the loading table.. do you have to have the ammo in you gun belt???

[joec]

I know your don't use gun carts, so how do you carry you ammo from where ever you have it to the loading table.. do you have to have the ammo in you gun belt???

I was wondering this myself Cash Creek but it was also my next question also. Thanks for asking it.

[Windy City Joe]

Saddle bags, Carpet bag, Canvas bag, cartage belt, pouch, you name it and it's been done.
Windy City Joe

[Will Ketchum]

It's not that we don't allow gun carts, we just don't encourage them.  For Working Cowboy you can carry everything you need in saddle bags or a duffel.  The last National Shoot I attended I forgot my saddle bags so I used a white canvas bag from Harbor Freight. It worked fine.
For classes requiring 4 guns a period looking conveyance such as a goat cart,  wooden wheel barrow or a wooden dolly with a shipping crate on it.  Most of all no pneumatic tires.  Most NCOWS ranges have gun racks on every stage.  If this old man can do it I am sure you'll figure out something.

Will Ketchum

[Montana Slim]

I carry my ammo & such in a homemade carpet bag.
I use a small cotton drawstring bag to transport cartridges to the loading table, while moving with a rifle in one hand and shotgun in the other, the bag is hanging by the drawstring over the butt of one of my revolvers.
While shooting, the empty bag is tucked into my belt.
When I'm done at the unloading table, I use it to carry empties back to my carpetbag.

I shoot Pistoleer, so my cartridge bag is a bit lighter than some.
Slim

[Tascosa Joe]

I carry all my gear in Saddle Bags.  I picked up a pair of the military style bags at Convention 3 yrs ago at a bargain.  I carry my ammo to the loading table in my vest pockets or I have semi period paper cartridge boxes I carry.  I have an repro Parker canvas shotshell belt which I fill.  I normally shoot WC, but I use the same gear when I shoot a 4 gun catagory.

I also have a gun cart, that looks like a miniture farm wagon.  I have not used it in about a year.

T-Joe

[Deadeye Don]

Cheek pouches.

[Pancho Peacemaker]

Here's a few ideas for you:

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartList.aspx?catID=10&subID=70&styleID=250&PageSize=10&Page=1

As already stated:  For working cowboy, you are usually carrying maybe 100 rounds for the match.  That's two boxes.  A nice saddle bag, saddle pocket, possible bag, or a carpet bag will suffice.

For 4 gun categories, I use a gun cart.  I usually have my 7 year old son tagging along with me and I carry his Winchester 22 with us.   

My cart has wooden wagon wheels to keep it themed with the time period.  "Off the Wall Guncarts" sells some very nice and authentic wagon wheels if you need some for your cart.  There was also a nice article in the "Shootist" a few years ago about making your own wagon wheels.

[Montana Slim]

As far as carts....I don't mind them a bit. It would not bother me if they are modern design...but those types are offically frowned upon. Strightly speaking, my cart is not NCOWS approved, since it is not a replica of, nor modified actual period conveyance. As such I leave it at home & make two trips hauling my gear about. This method just takes a bit more time....or I can man-up & carry two+ long-guns, carpetbag, two revolvers (holstered), plus my PP (if needed) at one time. Shooting a match without a cart provides a good cardio workout.

As far as placement of carts at NCOWS matches, I like keeping them well behind the firing line & preferably not placed between the supplied rifle racks & the stage firing area.

Slim

[Cash Creek]

I found a leather saddle bag I like but it has grommets in it, did they have grommets before 1890???

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/grommet

See definition 5. 

/ˈgrɒmɪt/  Show Spelled
[grom-it]  Show IPA

–noun
1. Machinery .
a. any of various rings or eyelets of metal or the like.
b. an insulated washer of rubber or plastic, inserted in a hole in a metal part to prevent grounding of a wire passing through the hole.
2. Nautical .
a. a ring or strop of fiber or wire; becket.
b. a ring having a thickness of three strands, made by forming a loop of a single strand, then laying the ends around the loop.
c. a ring of fiber used as a seal or gasket, as under the head of a bolt.
3. a washer or packing for sealing joints between sections of pipe.
4. Military . a stiff ring of rubber or metal inside the top of a service cap, designed to keep the top of the cap stretched flat.
5. a metal-bound eyelet in cloth, sometimes used decoratively, as on a garment.
–verb (used with object)
6. to fasten with a grommet.
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Origin:
1620–30; < obsolete French gromette  curb of bridle < ?

[Cash Creek]

I answer my own question...
In [b]1847[/b], Middletown was New England's largest inland port, and it was in that year the company that would become Wilcox, Crittenden & Co., Inc. was established. According to the centennial history of the company, it was in Ben Butler's sail loft in Middletown that Eldridge Penfield first conceived of developing a metal grommet (later to be called the sail eyelet grommet) to replace the rope grommets that were currently being used by sailmakers.

So I guest these are ok for NCOWS..

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

http://www.marquise.de/en/themes/korsett/korsett.shtml

Regency and Victorian

Corsets of 1890

When the waist moves back to its natural place during the 1820s, corsets become more popular again. Until the 1840s, well-shaped figures can do without one without drawing Looks. In 1828, lacing eyelets with hammered-in metal grommets are invented (until then, eyelets had been stitched). A year later, the planchet came in: Two metal strips, one with little mushroom-shaped heads, the other with eyelets, used to close and open the corset in front without having to undo the lacing every time. This busk, as it is called in English, makes it possible to change the lacing completely: Both ends of the cord are threaded through the eyelets crosswise and knotted together at the end. At waist level, one loop is formed on either side and used to pull the lacing tight. This kind of lacing is still used today.

I "plump" for 1828!  But metal grommets probably didn't see the light of day until well later.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I found a leather saddle bag I like but it has grommets in it, did they have grommets before 1890???

Those look like twin suitcases.  Old time saddle pockets were never so ambitious.  HST, I have a set almost as large, and they are handy.

[River City John]

http://www.marquise.de/en/themes/korsett/korsett.shtml

Regency and Victorian

Corsets of 1890

When the waist moves back to its natural place during the 1820s, corsets become more popular again. Until the 1840s, well-shaped figures can do without one without drawing Looks. In 1828, lacing eyelets with hammered-in metal grommets are invented (until then, eyelets had been stitched). A year later, the planchet came in: Two metal strips, one with little mushroom-shaped heads, the other with eyelets, used to close and open the corset in front without having to undo the lacing every time. This busk, as it is called in English, makes it possible to change the lacing completely: Both ends of the cord are threaded through the eyelets crosswise and knotted together at the end. At waist level, one loop is formed on either side and used to pull the lacing tight. This kind of lacing is still used today.

I "plump" for 1828!  But metal grommets probably didn't see the light of day until well later.

Here's a wedding corset dated 1834 embroidered into it, that has metal grommets up the back for lacing.

[Major 2]

I found a leather saddle bag I like but it has grommets in it, did they have grommets before 1890???

Those sold by Cabella's , I think made by Kirkpatrick ??

Sorta a stylized copied after 1904 Mac Pattern bags .. and not that well copied...

If you load those up they will be heavy and I think awkward to carry, I'd pass on them ....

I use a Valice or PORTMANTEAU  mine is... 6 1/2 " in Dia. & 16  " long.  
No dog in the fight , but there are two PORTMANTEAU's in the classified and IMO reasaonable cost