Did I Do All Right?

Started by WaddWatsonEllis, February 06, 2011, 11:40:32 PM

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WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

I just bought my first percussion rifle at Christmastime (as amatter of fact, it did go under the tree).

Bu I have no idea wether the pricde I paid was a rip off or no ...

I bought this Pedersoli .50 Scout, a bottle of FFG powder,sone .50 Cal balls and some tools for $300.00.

Did I do okay?

FWIW, the only thing I didn't get with it was a good possibles bag and tool kit ... so I bought the October Country Bridger Bag Kit through the Possibles Shop @ $39.95 ...

http://possibleshop.com/

So I think I done good ....
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Dick Dastardly

Is it new?  Dixie Gun Works has it listed . . . .

PK3315 Pedersoli Scout Carbine Kit .50 Caliber Percussion    $495.00
PK3315 Pedersoli Scout Carbine Kit .50 Caliber Percussion
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This Scout Carbine .50 percussion kit is a beautiful and rugged "carbine" version of the Pennsylvania Rifle. Easy handling for bush hunting and young shooters. Fullstock with a 13 ½" trigger pull. Barrel is octagon 1 in 32" twist with a front sight blade and a rear sight –ramp adjustable for elevation. Brass furniture, color casehardened lock, double set/ double phase trigger. Overall length is 43 7/8" and weighs 6 lbs. Made by Pedersoli/Italy.

THIS PRODUCT CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO CANADA.

So, at $300 you probably did good.  What condition is it in?

DD-DLoS
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WaddWatsonEllis

I haven't been able to look at the bore yet ... no borescope available. But the outside is like new. I was in the shop when the previous owner brought it in though.

It was like he was having to sell his firstborn child .... so I am guessing that the bore is as immaculate as the gun ...

Just to interject a bit, although I may fire it with ball just to try it out, it will probably only be used for reeenactment after that, and the strongest projectile fired from it will be floral foam ... so if there is a little corrosiion I can live with it ....

But, short of a borescope, how does one check a blackpowder weapon?  This is my first rifle, and I am learning ....
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Forty Rod

Oh, Wadd, you poor beknighted soul.  If you shoot that dang thing you'll likely become so enthralled with it you'll end up with another full blown "hobby" (aka "compulsion") that will take up what few resources and time you may have left.   ;D

Sounds like a good buy on the gun and the bag.  

Lessee now, horn or flask, patch knife, short starter, jags, slotted tip, ball screw, patch worm, spring vise, spare ramrods, vent pick, ball pouch, capper, nipple wrench.....and the list goes on.   ::)

People like me are the reason people like you have the right to bitch about people like me.

WaddWatsonEllis

Forty Rod,

I know what you mean about buying stuff ...

The rifle cam with a powder horn, got a patch knife already, it came with a short starter with a ball handle, already had a vent pick that cam with a pair of ROAs, already bought a fiberglass spare ramrod, gonna sew myself a ball bag ...

But I think i will have to buy a nippe wrench ... mine is the worn size, got a 'snail' to cap with and an old horn capper from the ROAs

So far I need to by a nipple wrench and patch wormer   ... anything else I should have in my possibles bag?
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Stu Kettle

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on February 07, 2011, 11:15:30 AM
So far I need to by a nipple wrench and patch wormer   ... anything else I should have in my possibles bag?

Sounds like you have everything you need to try it out.  DD say's it has a 1 in 32" twist, might be be a little fast for patched round balls.  If it won't shoot a good group for you, you might want to try some conical bullets.

Deadeye Dick

I agree with Stu, you will probably need to shoot bullets rather than balls. The normal barrel rifling for balls is 1 in 60" twist. Like Stu said give the balls a try and see how they shoot. Let us know the results.
Have fun.
Deadeye Dick
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  DIRTY RATS #411, HENRY #139, PM KEIZER LODGE #219  AF&AM

WaddWatsonEllis

Well, balls came with the gun, so tha tis probably what I will try it out on ... my fixed budget was pret beaten up just buying th e rifle and accessories .... mostly it will just shoot floral foam (for reenactments).

But, out of curiosity, since it is .50 caliber, does this count as a buggalo gun and can I use it in competion?

Just curious ....
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Deadeye Dick

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on February 07, 2011, 12:42:27 PM
But, out of curiosity, since it is .50 caliber, does this count as a buggalo gun and can I use it in competion?
Just curious ....
Well if you can find the buggalo's, go right ahead.  ;)
Deadeye Dick

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  DIRTY RATS #411, HENRY #139, PM KEIZER LODGE #219  AF&AM

Dances With Coyotes

I think you did alright. Theres another forum I hang out at    www.muzzleloadingforum.com     Has alot of good BP info (not that this one doesnt of course)
All you need is love and a .45

WaddWatsonEllis

DD;

That's what I get from trying to type in a hurry  ... of course I meant buffalo gun ...

Dances,

I am clickin onto that forum right now ...
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Forty Rod

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on February 07, 2011, 11:15:30 AM
Forty Rod,

I know what you mean about buying stuff ...

The rifle cam with a powder horn, got a patch knife already, it came with a short starter with a ball handle, already had a vent pick that cam with a pair of ROAs, already bought a fiberglass spare ramrod, gonna sew myself a ball bag ...

But I think i will have to buy a nippe wrench ... mine is the worn size, got a 'snail' to cap with and an old horn capper from the ROAs

So far I need to by a nipple wrench and patch wormer   ... anything else I should have in my possibles bag?

Yep, a wood bullet block if you're shooting round ball, some patch material or cut patches, small can of patch grease or bullet lube, a bottle of Williamsville stock wax (if you can still find it), a few cotton swabs, and your earplugs and safety glasses, a couple of screwdrivers, and possibly a wedge puller.  

I also keep a fire kit in mine, more for tradition and looks than practicality, and though I've never had to use it, a Tedd cash nipple charger.

Your small tools will fit nicely in a Sucrets can (An Altoids can will work as well, but I prefer the friction lid to the hinged one.)  Strip the finish and brown it.  It will be big enough to hold a couple of spare nipples, and extra barrel wedge, and a few other geegaws.  If you want to go fancy, Cash also makes a number of tobacco and cap boxes that will do the same job.  

For comfort, get a small tin of bag balm.  It works well for protecting your hands.
People like me are the reason people like you have the right to bitch about people like me.

WaddWatsonEllis

Damn I wished I spelled better when I typed fast!!!
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Jamie

I didn't notice whether or not someone answered your question on the borescope alternative.  There is a small self contained light which can be slipped down the barrel and it illuminates the bore pretty well. It will show any significant corrosion clearly.  The ones I've seen all have a sort of a greenish light, which I suspect is there for a reason ...?  Anyway, it's a handy tool for anything with a big enough bore to slip it down - definately in a 50 caliber, I'm not sure about a 45, but it is too big for my 36.  Mine was from CVA, but I've seen them (appear identical - from other sources as well.
Jamie

WaddWatsonEllis

Jamie,

I will look into the Boroscope .... I just bought a bunch of stuff I want to clear so that I can pay my mortgage payment, and i will be getting it probably next month ....
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

cpt dan blodgett

Ya could just shoot the darn thing, if it groups, who cares what the bore looks like - just sayin
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WaddWatsonEllis

Did, did and done....

An' it made the little metal thingamajigies go 'ding' too

But all the bullets were corroded and hare to set, so I guess I will just go buy some more .490 Balls ... and the lubed patches were all dried out, so I guess I will pick up some lube at the same time ... I think that the people at the Possibles Shop are going to know me by name .... LOL.
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

cpt dan blodgett

Back in the day I used to shoot a CVA hawkin and CVA Penn Long Rifle 50 cal.

Hunting I used greased patches.  At the range, being extremely cheap, used spit lubed patches.  Just kind sucked on them a while and loaded.  At the range I could fire them long before they dried out.  Spect some old time mountain men may have stumbled on to the same lube.  Would shoot till I got tired with no problems loading, a nice wet patch does the job, wet not dripping.

You can probably make due with crisco or olive oil for lube until the real thing shows up.
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