Is this a KIRST Konversion Cylinder?

[Bishop Creek]

I purchased this almost new '58 Pietta Remington with a conversion cylinder from Gunbroker.com back in early 2001 for $175 (for BOTH!), so it was quite a bargain. My brother liked the cylinder so much that I bought a KIRST conversion cylinder for him from River Junction Traders a year later.




When comparing the two cylinders side by side, I noticed a difference between them. Mine is on the right. It has two little screw "feet" at the bottom of the conversion ring instead of the flat platform like the newer one (circa 2002) on the left.




The cylinder bolt stops are different too.




My cylinder doesn't have the spacer at the back so the conversion ring sits flush until loaded with cartridges.




The edges on the front of my cylinder are more rounded too. This revolver was made in 1999 and this cylinder does not lock up correctly in my later model Pietta Remingtons. I have always figured it to be a very early KIRST conversion cylinder, but is it? Anyone know for sure?

[Mako]

Bishop,
Put this on SCORRS.  Raven looks on there and he could tell you in an instant.  I don't think he ever looks on this forum, I'm pretty sure he's never posted in the Darksider's Den.

He's a Kirst guy... and as soon as he sees it you should get an answer.

Regards,
Mako

[Bishop Creek]

Thanks Mako. I don't know why I didn't think of that! And I'm a SCORRS member too! Moving it to SCORRS.

Moved: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,36681.0.html

[Mako]

Bishop,
I see that you already have your answer over on SCORRS.

It's pretty cool having prototypes.  I have them for several common firearms and products most shooters in the particular sports would immediately recognize and that have gone on to be great successes.  Be sure to document it and write it down so that someday it won't be lost to time.

~Mako

[Bishop Creek]

I sure will Mako. I like having a prototype Kirst cylinder.

[Dusty Morningwood]

A few years ago I had a cutdown 58 with a birdshead grip and 2" barrel that had a similar conversion cylinder marked ASM.  I do not think it was made by ASM, I think the 58 had originally been an ASM and the clyinder was marked to identify it.  It was a five shot .45 Colt.  Wish I had kept it now.

[Bishop Creek]

A few years ago I had a cutdown 58 with a birdshead grip and 2" barrel that had a similar conversion cylinder marked ASM.  I do not think it was made by ASM, I think the 58 had originally been an ASM and the clyinder was marked to identify it.  It was a five shot .45 Colt.  Wish I had kept it now.

My conversion cylinder has a tiny "P" stamped on the back near the outer edge (not really visible in the photos above) which I'm sure means it is for use in a Pietta revolver.