Two Indian Army Scouts 1877

Started by Henry4440, December 28, 2010, 07:20:17 AM

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Wolf Voice and friend, 1877 US Army scouts

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These are Crow warriors - used against the Sioux in the '76 and '77 campaigns. You can tell from the fellow's loop necklace (on the right) and the style of the beadwork on the fellow on the left.
Great photo.
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Hate to have those two on my trail.  :o

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Quote from: Bead Swinger on December 31, 2010, 03:51:23 PM
These are Crow warriors - used against the Sioux in the '76 and '77 campaigns. You can tell from the fellow's loop necklace (on the right) and the style of the beadwork on the fellow on the left.
Great photo.
Sorry but Wolf Voice was Gros Ventre (according to several sources on the Northern Plains battles) )and I'm willing to bet the other gent is as well due to his hair style (though that could be Crow, Nez Perce, or Shoshone). Loop necklaces were popular amongst not only the Crow, but several other tribes including the Blackfeet with whom the Gros Ventres, cousins of the Arapahos, were closely allied, Nez Perce, Shoshone, and Flathead.
The beading on the other gents leggings is not Crow - it's lane stitch which the Crow used seldom except in conjunction with other methods such as the Crow Stitch or appliqué stitch, and the cloth Crow leggings of that era generally had a large rectangular semi or fully beaded section below the knee rather than the edge strip as pictured (edge strips were used later - generally post 1900).
Here's Curley with typical Crow leggins
http://www.firstpeople.us/photographs2/Curley-Crow-Scout.html
or these in color:
http://anthro.amnh.org/images/full/502/502_4439B.jpg

While the Gros Ventre generally preferred the appliqué stitch for most of their beadwork a perusal through the Gros Ventre beadwork on the AMNH site does have some pieces beaded similar to this i.e similar pattern and method.
On the other hand the beading on the leggins is more typical of the Sioux and could be "plunder" or traded for.

as noted not the type of guys I'd want on my trail...........


PS according to one site the picture above is:
WOLF VOICE AND FRIEND, Gros Ventres
Ready to face any danger, these two Gros Ventres warriors pose proudly with their rifles. Wolf Voice (left) served as an enlisted scout and as an Indian policeman.
Photograph by John H. Fouch, 1877

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