EPP-UG Navy

[Dick Dastardly]

We are now in the planning stages of producing the EPP-UG in Navy size.  It'll be a six cavity mold built on the same DD Big Lube®LLC platform as the original EPP-UG.  I'll name the new mold the EPP-UG Navy.

This is an announcement only. Actual drawings and production are weeks away.

DD-DLoS

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

That's great DD!  Will it have any of the max-weight characteristics that MAKO was trying to develop, or is it simply a scaled version of the EPP-UG.  I know Mako couldn't get the weight he wanted, but for me it would be nice to be at least as heavy as the LEE conical.

[Dick Dastardly]

Howdy St. Charles,

The EPP-UG Navy would be a true to the inventor EPP design.  It would be intended to emulate round ball characteristics but carry all the lube Big Lube®LLC bullets have become famous for.  The design would be about as long as it is wide, same as the original EPP-UG.

I could consider developing a scaled down version of the conical DD/PUK/ROA-II mold for Navy C&B guns.  It would be heavier, much as it is in Army configuration at 210 grains compared to 150 grains for the EPP-UG.  Nothing promised, but it's an interesting thought.  Something around 140 grains??

DD-DLoS

[Pettifogger]

Interesting.  I have never been able to seat a conical bullet in a Uberti .36 because the chambers appear to be slightly tapered.  This looks like it has promise.

[Dick Dastardly]

Since I've found that a dual rebate, such as the DD/PUK/ROA-II has, is beneficial because it allows use in a wider range of chamber sizes.  So, that said, what is the range of chamber mouths being used?  I'd like to make the EPP-UG Navy base fit as many as possible.  I've posted the drawing of the DD/PUK/ROA-II for you to view.

Thanks,

DD-DLoS

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

DD;  Remember this old poll?

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=24204.0;wap2

[Lucky R. K.]

Hello Dick,

In order to use the Pecos Pete bullet in more of my guns I did the following.  I made a Lubersizer die for  my Lyman Lubersizer that was tapered.  The top driving band wasn't changed but the bottom band was sized to about .435.  This allows me to use the bullet in my Ruger Old Armies, My Pietta 1858's and my Cenature 1860.

The bullet performs very well at Cowboy distances.

Lucky 

[Dick Dastardly]

Thanks Sir Charles,

Those sizes will be covered.

Thanks Lucky RK,

The tapered base was considered.  It's harder to start a bullet straight but it does cover the gamut of chambers well.

DD-DLoS

[Mason Stillwell]

Oh Boy , Oh Boy . I cannot wait. I have a pair of 36's that Larsen fixed up for me that would to digest those little boolits.


Mason

[Fox Creek Kid]

The only thing bad about conicals is that shoot too damned high.

[Dick Dastardly]

Thanks FCK,

The EPP-UG, which emulates RB size, weight and performance, shoots to the POA in my guns.  It's not a true conical, but a compromise that carries it's own lube.  If you shoot an Army size gun you might give the EPP-UG a try.

The EPP-UG Navy will be designed for .36 Cal guns.  It will be a scaled down version if the original EPP-UG.  I suspect that you would find that it would shoot to the same POA as the round balls it emulates.

The conical version of the 44 Cal C&B DD/PUK/ROA-II would be heavier at something like 140 grains.  It might indeed shoot a to a higher POI.  Time will tell.

DD-DLoS

[Fox Creek Kid]

D.D., I should have been more clear. Conicals are alright IF you are dialed in for them. I like to be dialed in for RB as they are readily available and I adjust my front sights to such. If a person is going to shoot conicals I would find the right load BEFORE regulating the front sight as at least for me it's a PIA to hold 6" below ever target I shoot. YMMV.