Grease cookies in the 45-60

[Roosterman]

Anybody been working with grease cookies? I've been using big lube bullets and real BP but can only get about 5 shots before accuraccy is gone due to fouling and some leading. I figure a grease cookie may solve this and will try it when it cools off this fall. Just wondering if I'm spitting in the wind.
Probably switching from 2FF Goex to swiss might cure quite a bitt of my problem.
I have a '73 that fouls bad unless I use a cookie, but the 45LC is already an anemic BP rifle cartridge with out taking up space for a coookie.
Thoughts?

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
The Swiss will make a BIG difference . You shouldn't need a grease cookie with it .

[Slowhand Bob]

This was one of my questions, just a few posts down.  I f we assume that the '76 appeared just in time to see some limited use in the buffalo fields than we would thing that there was perhaps they might have seen some use in a sustained fire situations that required good lube for the barl.  Since these guys were often limited to the loading and reloading supplies at hand, there was no running to the store for some special powder or secret bullet lubricant formula.  My problem is that adding anything beyond a good bullet lubricant would one- cause problems with melting in the case or two- not be practical for use in repeaters that are trying to maintain some degree of speed.  I'm sure that I am missing a lot on what is needed since I have no background in this type of shooting and true CAS style matches are not even available anywhere nearby.  When I try my first time I will simply take plenty of Ballistol and shoot a squirt down the barl as I feel necessary!

[Grizzly Adams]

I experimented with grease cookies in the 45-70 and in a 45-75.  In both cases they became secondary projectiles, and added nothing to the lubrication issue.  I found them sticking to the target!    Try Swiss.

[Roosterman]

Yeh, Swiss it is. I shoot it in my Sharps and Rolling block, but its soooooo expensive.

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
The Swiss is worth the money . You won't need a lube cookie , which adds another step to reloading .

[Ranch 13]

Properly done a grease cookie will make a lot of difference. But it sounds like you may not be compressing the goex enough.
If you mix beeswax and jojoba 3-1 (jojoba 3 parts) or beeswax and vaselin 50-50 pour it in a pan to cool no more than 1/16th inch thick it may help some.
You might also want to try a different bullet, to much lube can cause some lube warping problems and throw accuracy right out the window.
If you're still convinced it's the powder then try some KIK 2f.

[Grapeshot]

If you like doing things the hard way, try paper patching your slugs and using a grease cookie.  Works in the Roller and I had some success in my Chappy.  Good luck.  ymmv

[Buffler Razz]

I use em in my BP guns and am most pleased. I shoot Goex in my 40-82 and 45-70 as well as my 45 Colts. I get a nice lube star on the face of the muzzle and don't run into a fowling issue with any of the guns. When I got the 40-82 I was told it was pretty well shot out and not real accurate, yes the bore is a bit pitted, but not horrible. Between the lube cookie and gas checks on the base of my cast bullets it sure shoots fine. My lube is 50 / 50 bees wax and crisco with a spoon of Murphy's Oil Soap mixed in at the end. I pour them out in sheets on wax paper at ~ 1/16" thick. Works well for me, your mileage may vary as they say.

[wyldwylliam]

I've always used grease cookies in my large-capacity bp cartridges, with good results. As has been said, unless you get a wet muzzle after shooting, there's not enough grease in the load to keep the fouling soft.

And, it may well go without saying, but I always load powder, wad, grease, wad, bullet. That wad under the bullet will keep your grease from sticking to the lead, esp. if you use a card with a shiny surface. I was also taught years ago to compress Goex fairly stoutly.