Unidentified Portrait of Man with Rifle

[Delmonico]

The beard looks Edwardian; nattily trimmed and full faced.

I would guess an East Coast Dandy, Teddy Roosevelt follower or possibly English (those pants!) ... perhaps even a European Hunter ....

A question, for what reasons did you come to this conclusion?  Is it just because you don't like plaid pants?  Myself I've been trying for several years to get one of the companies to make some.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Delmoico,

'Way 'back when I was in college, there was a discussion in a psyche book about different society's and their approach to patterns.

There was a picture of of King Edward the Seventh (The King who abdicated to marry the 'American Woman'. Although it was a very informal picture ( The then ex-king had his legs on a desk), it was noted in the book that not one piece of his outfit 'matched' by American standards. He was awash in stripes, paisley, plaids and such.

The point that I am making a very long time in getting to is that one must judge patterns by the day's standards ... the King's haberdashers and dressers would never let him be seen in less that exquisite clothes ... and the book when on to point out that, in English circles of the day, it was thouroughly smashing to mix textures as long as the matched the texture next to it.

So, this guy was on a hunting trip .... and plaid pants were very apropo; the genteel aristocracty of both the East Coast and England would  turn out for a shoot in their plus-fours and jackets of watch plaid.

If I let some of my own prejudices come out, mea culpa. I am just reacting to my own set of society and personally imprinted senses of 'style'.

[Delmonico]

Delmoico,

'Way 'back when I was in college, there was a discussion in a psyche book about different society's and their approach to patterns.

There was a picture of of King Edward the Seventh (The King who abdicated to marry the 'American Woman'. Although it was a very informal picture ( The then ex-king had his legs on a desk), it was noted in the book that not one piece of his outfit 'matched' by American standards. He was awash in stripes, paisley, plaids and such.

The point that I am making a very long time in getting to is that one must judge patterns by the day's standards ... the King's haberdashers and dressers would never let him be seen in less that exquisite clothes ... and the book when on to point out that, in English circles of the day, it was thouroughly smashing to mix textures as long as the matched the texture next to it.

So, this guy was on a hunting trip .... and plaid pants were very apropo; the genteel aristocracty of both the East Coast and England would  turn out for a shoot in their plus-fours and jackets of watch plaid.

If I let some of my own prejudices come out, mea culpa. I am just reacting to my own set of society and personally imprinted senses of 'style'.

So to cut it to the simple no BS version, you are saying that only a dandy from back east would wear the plaid pants and be groomed?  One could hardly call Bill Hickok a dandy from back east and he often was well groomed and wore plaid pants. Some simple research would most likely show he wasn't the only one.   And yes your being set in your ideas is coming out, in fact you almost seem to be making that common flaw of judging the standards of another time by your standards.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Delmonico,

I think you misunderstood me , and I have now wish to start a tempest in a teapot.

If you like plaid pants, that is perfectly okay with me.

And no, I don't think Bill Hickock was a'dandy from back east'.

Have the very best of days, Delmonico.

[Delmonico]

No you misunderstand me, if I'm making a tempest in a teapot, there will be no doubt. 

I asked an honest question from a man who made a conclusion, see I wanted to know what I missed since I came to the same conclusion.  You gave me a bunch of gobblity goop explaining you were educated and gave me no real basis for your conclusion.  Seeing's how you are one who seems to ask a lot of simple questions about the gear and clothing of the time period, I'm guessing based on this and you often telling us that you have not done that much research into the period, that your conclusion was based on what a lot of us call "blowing smoke up someone's arse." 

When called out on it, you quote Shakespeare and tell me to have a nice day.  That tells me you wish I would have not mentioned it.  If I'm wrong, then that's fine show me , but sorry that's how I see it right now.