My '58s

Started by Slowhand Bob, February 07, 2010, 12:03:13 PM

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Slowhand Bob

I am not a gunsmith with any great skills to show off but here are my '58s.  Look closely at the inner pair and see if you can pick up on something small but different from standard Pietta.  This particular pair were my oldest guns and they are the ones that used the eight extra old style cylinders which are located between them.  The ones with the fake ivory have the old early style ungeted Kirst Converters in them and an extra pair of cartridge cylinders that are not shown.  At present I have two 45Clot cylinders and two in six shot 45acp.  The acp versions are a hoot when loaded with 160grain bullets, gentle as any 38 out of these big guns!  I really like the little 31 Rems and have been toying hard with the idea of getting some Converters for them also.  Who says they do not make guns for pocket pistol anymore?  The last pair of short barls are my newest and have not been fired yet.  I made a recent deal to get a pair of the orriginal Kirst converters, unported, and this will let me use the short guns in two categories.  A little later I will try and get another pair of used cylinders (only) in 45Colt to give me a swap pair.

My greatest complaint on the '58 was always the tight space behind the trigger guard.  With my short thick fingers I always found this to beat up the front of my middle finger when shooting.  I recently noticed that when I lay the Rems on top of my '51 Colts that the back of the Rems guard had more room between it and the resting trigger making me wonder why the extra room back there?  Does the Remington trigger require more rearward travel, it sure would have come in handy as space position the whole guard forward a bit???  For whatever reason it does seem tighter on this set than any of the other Piettas.  Keep an eye out as this will probably be the ones used to finance a new rifle in the near future!

bedbugbilly

Slowhand - nice looking revolvers!  They are beauts!   :)

O.K. guys - now I'll say what I really think!  Don't ya feel sorry for someone that can't take somethin' apart without have a bunch of parts left over after he puts 'em back together?  I mean . . . . just look at all them cylinders he's got left over . . . . he must be doin' somethin' right 'cause it don't look like he's got a bunch of screws and small parts left . . . . but them cylinders!  I think he ought to buy a few more guns so's he can use 'em up!   ;D

Sorry slowhand . . . I couldn't help myself!   ;D

You've got some great looking pistols there - I really love the ivory grips - they sure dress 'em up!  Thanks for sharing the photos with us - now I have to go wipe the drool off my chin . . . . ..   :o

Flint

I see taller front sights on the two center guns................
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The hammer spurs have been lowered! ;D ;D
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Slowhand Bob

I am not spilling the beans just yet but.....  I do think we have confirmed what those gus are doing in the safe while I am not watching.  The little babies need some diapers and I am thinking on the ones that used to be popular, the ones mounted on suspenders.  Perhaps I could come up with a detachable version which could also house those small extra cylinders.  Since I do not tend to pull these out that often it amazes me how small they actually are everytime I see them.  These truly would make up into some excellent little 22 revolvers and just might handle six in that configuration.

Slowhand Bob

Yes on the turned down hammers, I sent them off and just got them back.  They really look good but actually did not have the effect that I had hoped for.  It seems to me that even with one handed cocking I have traded for a long reach up front for a longer reach at the rear.  I guess that old saying about robbing Peter to pay Paul was all that I accomplished!  

Adirondack Jack

Quote from: Slowhand Bob on February 08, 2010, 09:56:20 PM
Yes on the turned down hammers, I sent them off and just got them back.  They really look good but actually did not have the effect that I had hoped for.  It seems to me that even with one handed cocking I have traded for a long reach up front for a longer reach at the rear.  I guess that old saying about robbing Peter to pay Paul was all that I accomplished!  

Ya know, I just had that conversation the other day with a pard.  Low hammer= great for two-handers, not so great for duelist, unless yer thumb is double jointed.
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WaddWatsonEllis

Okay, youse guys gave me a reason to cut in on bragging rights.

I bought this little Remmie and am so pleased to own it.

It is a Millington conversion from .31 cap n ball to .32 S&W short.....

But the previous owner got a block of brass, and used the spur trigger guard as a template to form the base (where it goes against the body of the weapon) and then free handed this sweet traditional trigger guard ... now, at least to me, it looks like a miniature '58 Remmie ....

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Slowhand Bob

Wadd, that is one sweet little baby there!  A while back we were talking about this same subject , Im not sure which forum, and several pards sent pictures by email.  I am not sure which gun they raided the guard from but a couple used an existing brass guard as a starting point and one of the pards had a steel one.  I really like the tiny holsters but think I will do some sort of custom suspender holsters that would be detachable.  Though probably not original, I thought they were cool looking costume accessories back when they were popular.  I think the 'must check all guns' rule killed the use of pocket pistols and derringers being used as costume props, sad.

AJ, I have been using your newest brain child and really love them, we are way past due for these in our sport.  There is no doubt in my mind that these will stand up to anything short of getting run over by a car!  I guess my best endorsement comes from the fact that I will be glad when you decide to go commercial and I can buy some for the other gun.  More soon on another venue.  As to the hammer, that is actually the least of my problems with these guns, its my fat ole ham hock fangers that just do not play well with the back of the trigger guard.  Not sure why the problem does not seem nearly as pronounced with those new short barl guns?  Two thoughts are that the lighter front end does not cause them to lay as heavy on thet pivot/support point or less likely, perhaps Pietta relieved the back of the trigger guard slightly on their newer models???  Right now with the money crunch going on I am planning to sell the center guns and extra cylinders to finance some other projects and a couple will envolve you my friend, REEEAL GOOD OLD PARD OF MINE ::) ;) ;)!!

WaddWatsonEllis

Slowhand Bob,

When I got the gun, a 'Hunter ' style holster came with it. I took out the hammer strap and front side snap ... went to a saddlemaker, and he sewed an oval piece of leatherto cover the snap hole ... and it looks like a maker's mark unless one looks at it up close.

The second pic is a rig that I have thought would be perfect for a pocket pistol or derringer. The holster is secured by the suspender buttons and is inside the pants, with only the grip and hammer visible.  Then the suspender can be buttoned on on top of the holster buttonholes, effectively hiding the piece.

If I get a new holster, it will probably be one of these ...

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
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GunClick Rick

There's a cool little 22 remmie single shot on the sass wire for sale..
Bunch a ole scudders!

Slowhand Bob

I really like the suspender idea and anytime I see something I like in leather you can bet sum stealing is about to go on. 8)

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