need advice

[cowboy316]

Howdy pards
just got the belt sold to the lady that ordered it and she brought her hubby and he brought in his black powder rifle and asked me if i could make a mountain man style scabbard with a sling of some kind attached to it what im needing is advice one just how to make the pattern should i do it in 2 pieces or one big piece im interested in all advice on this one guys big project for me and i dont wanna dissapoint him
Cowboy316

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

Howdy V316

      I'll tell you what I have, mine is a wool one with stripes at the end, it was made in two pieces that were outlined from the rifle, cut and sewed, and then turned inside out so you don't see the stitching, if he wants a sling attached you could attach it on the outside, especially if you're using leather, you will need to know how long he wants the sling, use his rifle to draw your outline, and allow for enough for a fold over at the but end, mine is about 8" folded over, and then with a tie string attached , tied around the stock at the but end. these are pretty straight forward, and should be an easy make for some one with your talent.

                                                 Have fun on your new project

                                                        Regards

                                                   tEN wOLVES 

[cowboy316]

TW
thanks for the info pards nad the encouragement its gonna be a fon project hope to have pics of it as i go
thanks again
Cowboy316

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

My pleasure 316, we'll look forward to seeing it when finished, I've got my old Hawken in mine right now, that's its home.

                                   be sure to post some pictures

                                          Regards

                                      tEN wOLVES 

[Forty Rod]

Check out Dixie Gun Works, Crazy Crow, Tecumseh's Trading Post and some others for pictures of examples.  I prefer a two piece deerskin sheath (Not too thin.) with a red trade cloth seam between the front and rear sections for decoration. A carrying strap (2+ inches wide.) should be made in two pieces, as well, attached about 6-12 inches from the toe and about the same from the heel and fastened together with laces or a buckle.

Decorations are up to your taste...or the customer's.  I like fringe for about a foot from the toe and on the part at the heel that folds over to close it up. Leave the middle unfringed. 

Hair and tin comes, ermine tails, feather, claws, and such can be added.  Beads or quillwork are great, but a LOT of work.

[GunClick Rick]

I did mine like Ten Wolves,old blanky..My buddy did one from elk hide and after use it stretched on him,now it's too long,but he really used his alot.

[ChuckBurrows]

some originals - some are one piece and others are two piece:

My buddy did one from elk hide and after use it stretched on him

When/if using commercial tanned elk hide or buckskin you NEED to prestretch it - dampen with water and stretch - leave stretched for at least 48 hours.

When doing an Indian style IMO brain tan is the best leather to use but is expensive - second best is the German Tan from Crazy Crow..........

[ChuckBurrows]

Here's a basic pattern - although written up for wool, it can be adapted to leather - the only difference when using leather and especially with long fringe many weren't sewn inside out or at least not the part with the fringe - see the originals above....

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

 Good advice Forty Rod, thanks for chiming in Pard, there you go 316 this should help you decide a little easier as to which way you want to go, I just thought of the style mine is , it's called a Hudson Bay style. Rick that old blanky works pretty good ha.

                             Chuck Thanks for chiming in here, this a great example of rifle covers


                                                 Regards

                 
                                            tEN wOLVES  

[cowboy316]

thanks you pards some sound advice i will take it all to heart and Mr Chuck thank you for some very fine examples and the pattern you posted is just want i need
thanks again pards my hats off to  you
Cowboy316

[JD Alan]

Very generous Chuck, very generous. JD

[Freedom]

Here are a few 1 piece cases that I have made..





I just fold the fring piece inside as I sew... When finished I turn right side out and cut the fringe..  I think they were around 17"??at the butt  by 9"??at the barrle end. Cut to the length of the rifle + 8" or 10" for the flap. They are cut at a taper on both sides(measured out from centerline)

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Those are some mighty fine gun socks, pards. Very inspiring. Thanks for the pics.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Some thoughts on Rifle Covers ...

I have been thinking about making several of these things to keep the long guns from being scratched up during transportation.

But I have this idea that might make yours different and far better than the norm ....

I was going to line mine with a 'sock' like what is sold by Midway for less than $10. The sock is impregnated with silicone and will keep the leather (Which tends to hold a bit of moisture) away from the rifle.

Plus anytime during the shoot, one could place the weapon in the the cover/scabbard and rub it down with the built in sock ... and clean any fingerprints or whatever might be on the gun....

If you decide to use this idea, it is gratis, and no percentage is expected on my part ....

[Forty Rod]

Some thoughts on Rifle Covers ...

I have been thinking about making several of these things to keep the long guns from being scratched up during transportation.

But I have this idea that might make yours different and far better than the norm ....

I was going to line mine with a 'sock' like what is sold by Midway for less than $10. The sock is impregnated with silicone and will keep the leather (Which tends to hold a bit of moisture) away from the rifle.

Plus anytime during the shoot, one could place the weapon in the the cover/scabbard and rub it down with the built in sock ... and clean any fingerprints or whatever might be on the gun....

If you decide to use this idea, it is gratis, and no percentage is expected on my part ....

That's just non-traditional and morally wrong.  I think I'll steal that idea for my next case. Thanks.   

[cowboy316]

ok pards ive got my design figured out and now got the question of a lining id like to do a red wool lining but i dont think i can find it here so what would the polar fleece be like would that be a good subsitute for woll if not can you guys help me out with the lining
thanks pards
Cowboy316

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

    Wad had a good idea, but you can also use a good felt, for your lining, it holds up well, and is easy to find at any yardage store, or where they have yardage, and finding red shouldn't be a problem.

                          Regards

                      tEN wOLVES 

[WaddWatsonEllis]

For example ... this is hella cheap and keeps moisture away from the gun as well....

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=796584

[Mogorilla]

Check out crazycrow, they have reasonable red wool.  Or, I made one for a friend and used red flannel, easily found at any fabric store. 

Here are some I have done.  1st one is made from scraps, the beaded rosette cost more than the rest put together.



This is some elk I purchased from Moscow fur and hide.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Hi,

I am sure there are leather guncovers in my future, but at $8.95 per canvas SASS Gunsock plus around five dollars each for the silicone sock, I think I am starting here ....