I need help with a picture

Started by Delmonico, July 28, 2009, 02:29:46 PM

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Delmonico

This is a scan from a paper back copy of "The Great Buffalo Hunt" by Wayne Gard.



Does any one know where there is a good copy of it on-line or does anyone have any book that has a better copy they'd scan for me.

Thanks in advance.

Mongrel Historian


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RattlesnakeJack

Quote from: Delmonico on July 28, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
This is a scan from a paper back copy of "The Great Buffalo Hund" by Wayne Gard.

Funny ..... can't see any sort of dog in the photo ...... (nor does the author's name sound German .....)

::)    ;D

Sorry Del ...... couldn't resist!    ;)
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Delmonico

Quote from: RattlesnakeJack on July 28, 2009, 03:08:14 PM
Funny ..... can't see any sort of dog in the photo ...... (nor does the author's name sound German .....)

::)    ;D

Sorry Del ...... couldn't resist!    ;)

Thanks, was on the wrong browser and didn't have spell check. ;D
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Pony Edwards

Delmonico:

I'm pretty sure this is the source of the photo you're asking about.

Extracted from: the Handbook of Texas, On-line

ROBERTSON, GEORGE (?-?). George Robertson was an early photographer who photographed the preparation of buffalo meat and hides for eastern markets, processes that contributed to the near extermination of the American bison. In 1868 he met Austin photographer William J. Oliphant while both men were working in Washington, D.C., in the gallery of noted Civil War photographer Alexander Gardner. They continued to correspond after Oliphant returned to Texas, and in 1872 Robertson moved to Austin, where he worked in Oliphant's Pecan Street gallery. In 1874 he accompanied a buffalo hunting expedition that traveled to Buffalo Gap in Taylor County. Although the cumbersome wet-plate process prevented Robertson from photographing live herds, he did capture shots of hunters skinning buffalo's, preparing the meat and hides, and returning to civilization with loaded wagons.

Robertson's photographs of the buffalo hunt were included in Oliphant's popular series of stereoscopic views, "Life on the Frontier." His pictures from a geological survey of Texas were also included in that series. Nothing else is known about Robertson or his activities, although it is possible that he may have operated a photography gallery in Brenham in the late 1870s. The glass negatives for his photographs of the buffalo hunt were discovered some fifty years later by Mabel Brooks, who was searching the home of Max Wolff for photographs of nineteenth-century Austin. Robertson's photograph's are in the collections of the Huntington Library in San Marino, California, and the Smithsonian Institution National Anthropological Archives, Bureau of American Ethnology Collection.

If this is what you want, perhaps you'll be good enough to post it for us all to enjoy.

Thanks,

Pony Edwards

Delmonico

I'll do some searching, but I don't think that is the source of this picture, in this one they are not skinning it for the hide, but for meat only.  The skinning for hides for the market would have been from the belly side, these guys are skinning to get to the good upper cuts of meat.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Pony Edwards

Delmonico: I did a Google search and found 4 images from the series at: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us

Unfortunately, I didn't find the exact one you're interested in.


Pony Edwards

Delmonico

Quote from: Pony Edwards on August 05, 2009, 10:29:30 PM
Delmonico: I did a Google search and found 4 images from the series at: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us

Unfortunately, I didn't find the exact one you're interested in.


Pony Edwards

Thanks, Picture #1 is almost the same, but a different angle, so what I've been told about the picture was also wrong.

#3 is also in a lot of books.  Looks like they were more after tongues than hides, perhaps keeping only the best hides.  There was a drop in prices about that time.
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Ottawa Creek Bill

Del....
Here is one of the pics off the Texas site...looks like a couple of the same guys in your photo. Interesting in that looks like a Sharps carbine.

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Delmonico

Thanks, I looked at it but got busy with other things.  I think Wayne ?Gard talks about that group in his bood, need to dig out my copy and check it out.  But they sure are skinning it for meat rather than comercial hides.
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

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That picture OCB posted seems to be "flipped".  Or is that a rare left-hand Sharps carbine?

Heh Look!  That is the same carbine in Del's first photo, but right side 'round!
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Glad to see you are paying attention, Sir Charles,,,,I was just about to post the same comment.
What would a 'Lefty' be worth, do you think???

Keep trying Del,,your posts are always informative.

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