Progressive reloader question

[Bristow Kid]

Anyone here every used a Hornaday Pro-jector progressive press?  Does Hornaday have a website?

[Doc Flimshaw]

Anyone here every used a Hornaday Pro-jector progressive press?  Does Hornaday have a website?

GOOGLE

[Dr. Bob]

Here ya go!

http://www.gunaccessories.com/hornady/index.asp

[Capt'n Jack]

JMHO, but there are three classes of progressive loaders. all except Dillion, Dillon, and Star.  Star is for the production loader and so forget it anyway.  Dillon makes the best homeuse progressive loaders.  I would not consider all others.  Short and sweet.

[Shotgun Franklin]

Dillon makes the best homeuse progressive loaders.  I would not consider all others.

What he said. I've even called Mike Dillon on the phone for advice. There is also a free phone # that gets you a Tech if you have a question or problem. My old 450 is still working after several hundreds of thousands of rounds AND is still covered by warranty years after going out of production.

[Jefro]

Howdy Bristow, I use the Hornady Lock N Load AP, great press, it's maroon. Here's a  thread with some more details.
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,23582.0.html

Jefro

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

Howdy Bristow, I use the Hornady Lock N Load AP, great press, it's maroon. Here's a  thread with some more details.
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,23582.0.html

Jefro

       I listened to Jefro and Driftwood Johnson on this , and got the Hornady LnL AP, and I love it, the features are outstanding, the press is solid and smooth to use, I like everything about it, if you haven't checked one out you owe it to yourself to take a look before you buy anything.

                                            Regards

                                      tEN wOLVES 

[Mako]

Kid,
I have used a Hornady LNL, but currently I use a Dillon 650 for my Cowboy loads.  However I do use the Hornady Black Powder Measure with the case activated powder drop for all of my CAS BP loads (I use a Dillon measure for my two daughter's smokeless loads).  I like the tooling heads that the Dillon has and leave them set up for each particular caliber and in one case with one head for my BP loads and another for my daughter's smokeless loads in the same caliber. I find the tooling head keeps everything together on a stand waiting for change over, with the Hornady you have to keep track of the individual parts.

I like the Hornady BP measure and have a Case Activated Lower Die on each of the heads.  I just move the measure from head to head.  It literally takes seconds to move and mere minutes to reset the powder charge.  I find it much easier to adjust than the Dillon measures I use for my modern smokeless pistol and rifle loading.

There is one thing I don't like on the Hornady measure and that is the "Powder Through Expander."  It doesn't expand the mouths sufficiently for flat based bullets and it crushes cases every once in a while.  This is true on either the Hornady Press or the Dillon Press.  There is a third party solution:

http://powderfunnels.com/products.html

It's a simple idea and it works, I still don't understand why Hornady sticks with their poor design.  It may work for bevel base jacketed bullets but it really doesn't work well for lead flat base bullets.

I use Dillon dies for everything except the Crimping Die and the case charging.  I use Lee "Factory Crimp Dies " for all of my revolver type cartridges (I use Dillon Taper Crimp dies for all auto pistol cartridges).   The Hornady LNL works pretty well, I've just had good luck with the many Dillon Presses I have had (450, 550, 650 and two 1050s).  I will suggest one option for the 650 which is having two priming systems, one set up for large primers and the other for small.  That is really the most tedious task in the changeover and if you use both you will love it.  You can get by with one and changing the individual parts out.  I do like the Dillon priming system and I think it is the most trouble free and probably the safest (you would be hard pressed to set off a tube full of primers with the feed dial mechanism).

I have the low primer warning buzzer on the (one on each) priming systems and a powder check die I use on station 3.  This isn't as important on BP loads since the case is almost full to the brim, but it is a "gun saver" with smokeless powder.

Progressive presses with shell feeders will make you lazy...I can load enough ammo for a match in 10 to 15 minutes for just rifles or less than half an hour for rifle and cartridge pistols in the same caliber.  That is with straight walled cases, I find it takes me longer if I am loading .44-40.  I pre-lube my .44-40 cases usually the day before with Hornady One Shot and let it dry.  I rarely lube any of my straight walled cases.  They are tumbled in ceramic media and polished in corncob afterwards, they are slick and work fine in the Dillon Carbide dies.

Regards,
Mako

[Shotgun Franklin]

It doesn't expand the mouths sufficiently for flat based bullets and it crushes cases every once in a while.  This is true on either the ....... or the Dillon Press

Never had this happen on my Dillon. You ought to call'm and get it resolved.

[Mako]

Never had this happen on my Dillon. You ought to call'm and get it resolved.

Go back up and read what powder measure and through the die expander was being used.  Then you'll understand why it's never happened on your Dillon.

~Mako

P.S. I've never had a problem with a Dillon expander either( and I've owned a lot of Dillon Presses and dies).  I'd use it if it fit the Hornady measure.  But I posted a link to a solution.  If you call Dillon about my "problem" they will tell you three things. 1. Their press is not designed to reload Black Powder 2. Never use Black Powder in their (Dillon) measure 3. They don't recommend anyone elses powder measures on their presses.

The last one is a head scratcher because they sell Redding Match Grade BR measures and will recommend them for precision rifle loads.  But if you call about using a Hornady BP measure on their press that is what you will be told.

[Carolina Lead Foot]

Most presses have thier faithful followers.  The Dillon is a great press and company.  Not familar with the LNL but I know Jefro and abide by his opinions, since all have been solid in the past.  I personally use a RCBS Pro 2000.  I liked the way it handles the primers and being a BP shooter kinda liked getting away from using a tube to feed them in the press.  Just me is all since I also drop the powder via a powder measure using all the convenience of the press as I go.

Continue doing what you are, asking opinions.  Look at a friends around where you shoot.  Actually watch them reload and then make a decision.  I have used RCBS, LEE, and Herders (no longer around) and I am biased like most people.

My .02 Lead Foot