Euroarms Remingtons: Poor quality?

Indian Outlaw · May 16, 2009, 09:15:46 AM

Dixie has these on sale. One of the reviews is pretty bad, and I've read another bad review online as well. I understand that the Euroarms Rem is essentially the old Armi San Paolo Rem. The old ASPs were pretty nice. Does anyone here own one of the new ones?

Hoof Hearted · May 16, 2009, 10:53:54 PM

I have new and old ones

The quality is great on the new ones (just stay away from the kits as they are "as cast").
The blue is good, the lines are straight, the action fine and they have dovetailed sight and rammer lug like a Uberti.
Of course the grip is small and a bit tight between the trigger guard.

HH

Wolfgang · May 17, 2009, 06:23:10 AM

I didn't know that they were still produced ? . . I recently bought a very old one and it is excellent. Would be about 98% except for someone having spun the cylinder a lot with a burr on the bolt and left a gouge all the way around ( not a LINE . . . a GOUGE

) . I have hidden it by touching up with cold blue.

ps. I don't plan on shooting it. The grips are smaller than on my Piettas. Pietta grips work good for me. I'll keep it around for sometime when a lady with small hands wants to go shooting. Are your hands small ? . . if so the Euroarms may work for you. Get one in your hand and find out.

Riot Earp · May 17, 2009, 10:30:28 AM

They are definitely smaller than the Piettas.

Indian Outlaw · May 17, 2009, 10:34:57 AM

Quote from: Wolfgang on May 17, 2009, 06:23:10 AM
Are your hands small ? . . if so the Euroarms may work for you. Get one in your hand and find out.

Yes, I have pretty small hands. I've handled an Armi San Paolo. The grip was small but felt similar to the originals. S&S Firearms has a very low price on these. I will call them tomorrow and inquire as to their availability.

Indian Outlaw · May 18, 2009, 02:04:13 PM

I ordered one from S&S. $207.00 + New York State tax + shipping = around $240.00 total. They only had one in stock. I hope it's not a lemon (my expectations are cautiously low).

Marshal Rusty Bore · May 20, 2009, 08:38:29 PM

I have one that was made in 1970. It was rusted and i got it for $40.00. I cleaned it up stripped the bluing and redid it. It has the niceset action of all my 1858's

drjldavis · May 23, 2009, 02:18:42 PM

Euroarms is still around. They still have a Web Site. Euroarms started out way back as Armi San Paolo, merged into Euroarms Brescia and Euroarms of America. Their Remington New Model Army revolvers feel smaller because they are smaller. They are a replica of the Remington Beals, though not exact. You will notice that the barrel threads are not visable in front of the cylinder. The replica has slight arch in the frame where on the original this is straight. On the Remington New Model Army there is a larger arch and the barrel threads are very visable.

They no longer make the Colt replica models but concentrate on the Roger & Spencer and Remington Model with several variations of each.

If you have ever been able to compare the Lyman Remington models you will find that they too are actually Remington Beals and were made by Armi San Paolo, later by Uberti.

Indian Outlaw · May 23, 2009, 04:17:22 PM

The Euroarms arrived. It's pretty nice, but the grips are too small even for me.

On the plus side, I won a MINT Lyman Remington on gunbroker. It was auctioned by a local dealer; I got to see the gun first. It's very tight, has nice grips, and the original grease has hardened nicely on the steel, forming a thin protective film that can be removed (but I'm not so sure that I should do it). If it's an Armi San Paolo, it feels different than the Euroarms.

Wolfgang · May 26, 2009, 08:27:37 AM

Nice Lyman. Nice find. I've never had one in my hands.

Good shootin' . . . .

hellgate · July 06, 2009, 10:09:00 PM

Look under the rammer on that Lyman and see if there's a circle with the superimposed letters DGG inside the circle. If so, it is an Armi San Paolo.

I have 4 Euro 44s and two Euro 36 navys. I like the light weight and easy pointing. The Piettas were"clunky" and heavy to me so I sold them. The Ubertis are somewhere in between in size & weight of the Euros and the Piettas.

Harley Starr · July 07, 2009, 09:40:47 AM

Quote from: Indian Outlaw on May 24, 2009, 09:18:14 PM
Here's the Lyman, minus the grease.

Wow! Does the trigger have "sharp" edges on the bottom or is it smooth?

Matt Bastardson · July 07, 2009, 06:22:09 PM

The Armi San Paolo Remington New Models are delicately crafted (as in 'pleasure to handle and look at', and not 'fragile'). The Pietta Remington New Models are bulky and thick to handle, comparatively.

It's like the difference between a corvette and a SUV.

The Pietta's seem to be made from a softer metal also.

I can't say about the Uberti's as I don't own one. My impression is that they fall somewhere in the middle between the two.

Fox Creek Kid · July 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AM

The older Pietta '58's seem to be the best copy. I have one made in '75 and it mimics an original as far as feel to a "T". The grip is smaller than Uberti but not as small as Euroarms.