HELP ID my Remy Rolling Block

[Yul Catchum]

I bought an old Remington Rolling Block and cannot figure out which one I have. It is a large frame/action so I assume its a no.1. No remington stamp on tang or stamps on sides of frame. A four (maybe five - I can't remember) digit serial number under wood on left side of bottom tang. Nothing on barrel though the pitting makes that difficult for under wood.

The Caliber is unknown. A 43 Spanish won't go all way into chamber and a 43 Egyptian won't even come close to chambering.
Rear sight is something off a cheap 22 rifle, not original. Shoulder stock is maybe original but I kinda doubt it (big knot in right side of it) Forearm definately not original. Looks like the foreend of a Remington 700 re-worked. No bayonet lug.

I have pictures if anybody wants to e-mail me off-line at     rvmartin@calcasieu911.com

Yul Catchum, and you will if you ain't careful.

[Dusty Morningwood]

Sent ya an emule.  Could be a Spanish made example in 11.5x57R  Spanish Reformado.

[Delmonico]

There were lots of clones of rolling blacks made, could also be Danish or Belgum.

Best way to tell the caliber would to do a chamber cast.

[john boy]

It is a large frame/action so I assume its a no.1. No remington stamp on tang or stamps on sides of frame. A four (maybe five - I can't remember) digit serial number under wood on left side of bottom tang. Nothing on barrel though the pitting makes that difficult for under wood.

* What is the length of the barrel?
*  How many bands on the barrel and where are they located
* Any cartouches or numbers stamped on the butt stock?
*  Are there any 'P's' stamped on top of the barrel and receiver?  Indicates a Remington factory inspector mark
*  The numbers on the left bottom tang indicates the lot number of receivers made in a batch, usually for a specific contract.  But Remington was known to take any excess parts, put them together and sell them through Schuyler, Hartley, and Graham, a firearms retailer in NYC.  Many States or countries contracted through them and then Remington put the rifles together for the order with whatever they had

[Shotgun Franklin]

Until the AK-47 came along the RB was the most prolific military rifle in history. They were made under license, or not, by many countries. Do a chamber cast and slug the bore. With a bit of luck you'll can find out it was in a 'common' caliber. If it were mine I'd only use blackpowder in it. The first time you fire it you might wanna use a long string. The RB by Remington is a fne rifle but there's no telling who made your's.

[drcook]

Until the AK-47 came along the RB was the most prolific military rifle in history. They were made under license, or not, by many countries. Do a chamber cast and slug the bore. With a bit of luck you'll can find out it was in a 'common' caliber. If it were mine I'd only use blackpowder in it. The first time you fire it you might wanna use a long string. The RB by Remington is a fne rifle but there's no telling who made your's.

That is one of the most sage pieces of advice that I have seen in a while. While rollers are strong enough for their
intended loads, the metal is old and subject to fatigue, and you do not know what the last person shot in it, when
a roller fails, it is tremendously bad news.

THE BELOW IS A COPY OF A POST I HAD MADE ON ANOTHER BOARD WHERE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WERE THINKING
ABOUT SHOOTING SMOKELESS ROUNDS IN AN OLD ROLLER. THAT IS WHY THERE IS A REFERENCE ABOUT MODERN
AMMO, THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT THE ORIGINAL POSTER ON THIS BOARD, BUT IS STILL APPLICABLE TO ALL OF US
WHO EVER GETS THEIR HANDS ON ONE OF THESE OLD GUNS.

Before thinking about shooting modern ammo in those old rollers, take a look at these pics.

http://dutchman.rebooty.com/RBfailure.html

http://www.jaktojagare.se/se/article.php?id=279129&context=60321

Rollingblock rifles were perfectly adequate for the cartridges of the day, or cartridges crafted to duplicate the
pressures of the old ammo but modern cartridges can be hazardous to your health and well being.

The pics on the link above illustrate quite well about the dire warnings. Now granted in the fatality, the shooter was
at fault, but it very plainly shows what happens when a rolling block lets go. The original rollers are not as strong as
the falling block actions of the day were. Plus they are at least 100 years old, have been subject to who knows what.

Looking at the split actions in the pics on the link show exactly where the weak points are.

dc

[john boy]

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David - here's the last link in English