Disable a Henry

Started by Capt, Woodrow F. Call, January 18, 2006, 05:03:34 AM

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Capt, Woodrow F. Call

Howdy

I'm wondering how i can disable my 1860 henry for clean up, do anyone have some pictures, or some blueprint i can get.

My henry have brass case, do i have to be very careful when i use it, i been thinking about steel aka brass.


B.R
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Major 2


For now you may find some help here:

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,7203.0.html

there is discussion for a new Henry Forum here:

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=6082.new#new

We could use your vote  ;)

To answer your question about the Brass vs steel . I don't have the hard data at hand.
I do know the Brass is actually an alloy and quite durable. I know of several Yellowboys & Henrys that have seen many thousands of rounds in Cas shooting.
One of our top shooters and a firearm dealer here in Cen. Fla. has used a 66 Yellowboy as his main match Rifle for years. When asked about the brass vs. Steel he will tell you he has shot tens of thousands of 44/40 rounds through it.

when planets align...do the deal !

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Seth

I sent an Email to Silver Creek Slim.  I asked if he would send the info he was kind enough to share with you to this fellow and ME ! :)

"If we had our own Henry forum, we could post this disassembly/reassembly info as a sticky." Agreed   ;)
when planets align...do the deal !

Silver Creek Slim

I sent an email to Smokey and Major231.  ;)

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Major 2

Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on January 18, 2006, 09:06:54 AM
I sent an email to Smokey and Major231.  ;)

Slim


Got it sir ...THANK you  :)
when planets align...do the deal !

Silver Creek Slim

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Capt, Woodrow F. Call

Howdy.

Thank you so much, i have print it out allready. 8)

I have a soft rubber hammer, so i will be veeeeery careful ( with my lady) ;)



If we had our own Henry forum, we could post this disassembly/reassembly info as a sticky  i am very agree ;)


B.R Smokey Lonesome
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Forty Rod

Smoky, I didn't see where anyone else mentioned this, but the edges on the frame and side plates are VERY SHARP.  :o  :o

Be mighty careful...don't want you to cut off something you're still using regular.  ::) 
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Capt, Woodrow F. Call

Howdy.

It was'nt so bad, to disassble my henry, infact it was easy 8), but what kind of oil/grease can i use in the moving parts, but original from the factory in Italy, they had used grease instead of oil inside.........what will you recomend ?


B.R

Capt W F. Call

(( yes, .....the plates was very sharpen :o, my fingers is still working fine 8)  many thanks Forty Rod 8)


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J.D.Cayhill

I have always had good luck with silicone based grease. It will not gum up over time like a petrolium based grease will. Brownells sells some very good grease, try www.brownells.com
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Capt, Woodrow F. Call

Howdy

many thanks for info, 8) i have bougth some silicone grease, and tryed it out. every parts is working good. 8)



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Capt W F. Call
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Flint

I use white lithium grease inside my Henry, 66 and 73.
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Grogan

Quote from: Seth Hawkins on January 18, 2006, 08:13:45 AM
Brass vs. Steel - The brass used today is much stronger than the brass used 140+ years ago.  Unless you shoot A LOT of high-powered ammo thru it, you should never have a problem with the brass frame.  That frame has been proofed to handle factory loads with no problems.  Cowboy loads shouldn't phase it.  I've got one in 44WCF that I've been using as my main match gun for more than 10 years without any problems.  Before I went over to The Dark Side, I shot max Cowboy loads using HP-38 powder in mine.

When I get home, I'll forward you some good info on disassembly/reassembly procedures that another member was kind enough to share with me.

If we had our own Henry forum, we could post this disassembly/reassembly info as a sticky. ;)

Unless I'm mistaken here, the frames on Henrys and '66s (at least the originals) are NOT "Brass" (an alloy of Copper and Zinc, what cartridge cases are made out of) but rather BRONZE (an alloy of Copper and Tin).

It might be a somewhat moot point, but I thought I'd mention it.  There are numerous alloys of both Brass and Bronze, depending upon the exact formulation and percentage of metals used in the specific alloy.

The Bronze alloy that was used in Henry's was a composition that was common at that time and was used for many gun parts and was known as "Gun Metal".

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Trailrider

I don't know what is available where you are.  If you can obtain a Teflon-based lubricant called "Breakfree CLP", that is the best.  Another product, which is graphite-based is called "Lubriplate."  This was used by the U.S. military for years before Breakfree was developed.

In all instances, apply LIGHTLY to sliding surfaces, especially in cold weather. Breakfree is much better in cold temperatures.

As a point of information, the "brass" frame on your Henry and other "brass" guns is not brass, but a type of bronze alloy, which is strong enough to withstand the standardized pressures produced by black powder or smokeless propellants loaded to black powder pressures, 23,000 lbs/square inch (1426 kg/sq. cm., if my math conversion is correct).

Hope this helps.
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