*** SSS CHECK THIS OUT *** More information on the Spencer Civil War Badge

Started by Major 2, January 04, 2009, 07:17:16 AM

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Major 2

I'm not sure if this has been offered before  :-\

I know there is some interest in Wilson's Cavalry Corp. Badge
here is a fellow that makes a replica....I'm not familiar with the quailiy or have any dog in the fight..as it were  :) 

http://www.cwmedals.com/pro.htm
when planets align...do the deal !

Two Flints

Hi Major 2,

The Wilson badge looks to be a Sharps, although the photo is too small to really judge accurately.  We did go through this once before.  See the post: 

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,21058.msg268114.html#msg268114

Also I found the following information from the book Anecdotes of the Civil War in the United States by W.E. Townsend.  I did a cut and paste of one page that had information on the Spencer-Wilson Corps Badge.  See below.



Major 2, BTW, thanks for starting the fire again ;D ;D

Two Flints

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Major 2

Quote from: Two Flints on January 04, 2009, 08:54:25 AM
Hi Major 2,

The Wilson badge looks to be a Sharps, although the photo is too small to really judge accurately.  We did go through this once before.  See the post: 

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,21058.msg268114.html#msg268114

Also I found the following information from the book Anecdotes of the Civil War in the United States by W.E. Townsend.  I did a cut and paste of one page that had information on the Spencer-Wilson Corps Badge.  See below.



Major 2, BTW, thanks for starting the fire again ;D ;D

Two Flints

I recalled the post..that's where I thought the interest was... ;)

I've been to Selma many times to partisapate in the Annual Reenactment...I agree the badge depicts a stylized Sharps
when planets align...do the deal !

St. George

Original Civil War Corps Badges are somewhat rare - some are fantasies.

The badge for Wilson's Cavalry Corps was never ordered, nor made during wartime - merely 'proposed' - the only illustrations being the drawing above and a very similar smaller version.

The 'carbine' was to be a Sharps, since that was the original weapon - but that term came to mean 'Spencer' as well.

Long after the War was the heyday of the Grand Army of the Republic, and to a lesser degree - the United Confederate Veterans - both organizations who would become powerful political forces in their respective areas.

At that time was born the 'Veteran's Badge' - sometimes a shield, other times a 'ladder' - and these were purchased at the Conventions by proud veterans who could have their unit designation emblazoned on them, as well as their names and dates of service.

Any badge for an outfit like Wilson's Cavalry Corps was likely jeweler-made during the post-war era - and they'd be beyond rare, since they would've been expensive at the time, and were probably given as a gift to a senior Officer.

Look at a copy of 'Civil War Corps Badges and Other Related Awards, Badges and Medals of the Period' - by Phillips.

In it, you'll see original examples, period advertisments and fakes.

That being said - if you're being authentic to the time frame, you'd wear a society badge on your dress uniform - but not on a campaign uniform.

Vaya,

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Two Flints

Thanks St. George,

Your comments are always appreciated and welcome  ;D ;D

Upon checking my storage drive, I came across this file/drawing representing another example of Wilson's Cavalry Corps Badge -



Two Flints

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3/12 - 4th Inf Div
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Two Flints

Hello SSS,

After several Emails back and forth with Bill Vosseler of Civil War Medals, he decided to alter the design of his Wilson Cavalry Corps Badge.  The new design shows a Spencer  ;D ;D ;D   

The initial design work sheet:


The final design:  Wilson's Cavalry Corps Badge  :o :o :o


I've already placed an order for one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  I do not have price or date when orders will be accepted.

From one of Bill's Emails:

As for the Wilson medal drawing I tried cropping out everything I could if that helps and I'll send you a good picture once it's made. If you have the ability to delete the rest of the lines and measurements go for it! My photo edit capabilities are limited. When you post the Wilson, please THANK EVERYONE for me.

Bill's web site Civil War Recreations  http://www.cwmedals.com/pro.htm

Two Flints  ;D ;D ;D




Una mano lava l'altra
Moderating SSS is a "labor of love"
Viet Vet  '68-69
3/12 - 4th Inf Div
Spencer Shooting Society Moderator
Spencer Shooting Society (SSS) #4;
BOSS #62
NRA; GOAL; SAM; NMLRA
Fur Trade Era - Mountain Man
Traditional Archery

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