Help ID Brass Frame .36 C&B

Started by Dusty Morningwood, November 02, 2008, 07:35:57 AM

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Dusty Morningwood

Besides the 1960 New Model Army I picked up yesterday, I took this pistol as part of the deal (traded an old SxS hammer gun for both).  It is brass frame .36 cal.  Only markings are proofs on bottom of frame: a star over a shield and a star over PN.  Anyone know what model this is, who made it and when?  It may be either a Griswold and Gunnison repro. or Navy Arms "Reb".  This gun made in 1965 based on the XXI proof.  Tere is also this shield/crest (see pic).  Is that a maker's mark?  If so, whose?  Thanks.

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Fingers McGee

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Dusty Morningwood

One thing that might be helpful w/o taking it apart is thatsomeone had been dry-firing it and the nipples were pretty mushromed.  I took a couple out (do not have a proper nipple wrench) and a set of Thunder Ridge nipples for a Second Generation Colt fit perfectly.  Is this an early Uberti product?

Fingers McGee

Quote from: Dusty Morningwood on November 02, 2008, 07:36:38 PM
One thing that might be helpful w/o taking it apart is thatsomeone had been dry-firing it and the nipples were pretty mushromed.  I took a couple out (do not have a proper nipple wrench) and a set of Thunder Ridge nipples for a Second Generation Colt fit perfectly.  Is this an early Uberti product?

Probably.  Uberti and 2nd Gens use the same nipples.

FM
Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee;
SASS Regulator 28654 - L - TG; NCOWS 3638
AKA Man of many Colts; Diabolical Ken's alter ego; stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman/Pistoleer; Rangemaster
Founding Member - Central Ozarks Western Shooters
Member - Southern Missouri Rangers;
NRA Patron Life: GOA; CCRKBA; SAF; SV-114 (CWO4 ret); STORM 327

"Cynic:  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees thing as they are, not as they should be"  Ambrose Bierce

Flint

Gardone, Gregorelli and Uberti were involved back when Val Forgett started Navy Arms.
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Dusty Morningwood

The great thing about this little guy (other than the ringed cylinder and mushroomed nipples) is that I do not think it was ever fired AND it is almost "defarbed" in its current state.  No manufacturer's name or FOR BLACK POWDER ONLY messing up the barrel or frame.  Just a couple of very discrete proof marks.

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