2008 Territorial Governors Summit Agenda

[Hedley Lamarr]

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2008 Territorial Governors Summit Agenda

• 1. Should we combine the Traditional and Modern categories and then
split this combination into two age‐based categories, with the age breaks
being at 17 and up / 36 and up? This would give us age‐based categories for
all ages. All age based categories would allow the use of all SASS legal
firearms, propellants and shooting styles except Gunfighter.

• 2. Should we allow the use of the Gunfighter shooting style in all agebased
categories except the Buckaroo and Junior categories?

NOTE: This would NOT eliminate Gunfighter as a "stand alone" category. Nor does it change the requirement for "Traditional-style" (i.e. "fixed sight") revolvers for those categories that currently require them: Frontiersman, Frontier Cartridge, Frontier Cartridge Duelist, Duelist, Classic, & Gunfighter.

• 3. Should we replace the line – "Outlawed ‐ Clothing displaying
manufacturer's or sponsor's logos" with "The displaying of sponsor's or
team logos on apparel or equipment is prohibited.
Manufacturer's labels on such apparel or equipment are acceptable."?

• 4. Stage Conventions Item #3 requires all long guns staged horizontally
shall be staged lying flat where at least the rear of the trigger guard is on
the staging area. Should this also be applied to handguns?

• 5. Should we clarify the costuming requirements as follows? "ALL Clothing
MUST BE worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have
been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B‐Western movies and
Television. Clothing that is clearly NOT in the spirit of the "Old West" or in
good taste is NOT allowed."

• 6. Should we allow a shooter to retrieve a dropped round? The current
rule actually assumes that a safety rule could potentially occur when
retrieving dropped rounds. We have rules in place that address safety
issues when they occur.

NOTE: This would completely eliminate the MSV for attempting to retrieve a dropped round.

• 7. Should we change the verbiage about de‐cocking a firearm from ‐ Decocking
a revolver, rifle, or external hammer shotgun may not be done with
a live round under the hammer. Decocking may not be done to avoid a
penalty if cocked at the wrong time or position. to – NO gun may be decocked
on the firing line except by pointing it down‐range and pulling the
trigger or while under the direct supervision of a stage officer.

• 8. Should we change the rule regarding empties left on the carrier or in
the chamber of a long gun? A live round in the chamber would continue to
carry a Stage Disqualification penalty and a live round on the carrier a 10‐
second minor safety. This change would eliminate all penalties for empty
rounds in the chamber or on the carrier of long guns only.

• 9. Should we allow gunfighters to carry revolvers in the butt forward
manner? We have rules in place that address safety issues when they
occur.

NOTE: This would ALLOW "Butt forward carry & Cavalry 'Twist' draw" in GF & BW categories.  The prohibition against "butt forward" carry (other than an actual crossdraw rig) has been to prevent the shooter from breaking the 170º rule and/or sweeping himself...with the added objection that the T/O can't see both guns at the same time.   Every other category is allowed to carry revolvers "butt forward" and utilize the "twist draw", including Duelist (which, when shooting "Double Duelist"-style, actually allows reholstering BOTH revolvers at the SAME TIME at the end of the 'shooting string')

There are TWO methods of SAFELY performing the Twist Draw do NOT result in breaking the 170º rule or 'self-sweeping' with a loaded/unloaded revolver.

The "No crossdraw or shoulder rigs" could be left in place by writing the same rule for BOTH categories.


• 10. Should we allow ejectors on single shot shotguns?

NOTE: Most single-shot shotguns are currently being used by either new shooters (as an economical "entry level" firearm) or Buckaroos (usually in .410). Allowing ejectors would make these shotguns somewhat more competitive with the repeating models (which, by their very design, EJECT the empty hulls) as well as the SxS doubles.  The argument that the T/O will be "ducking and dodging" the empties also applies to the H&R Handi-Rifles currently allowed in "Plainsman" side events...ejectors don't seem to be an issue in that case, so why would they be for a shotgun as a 'main match' firearm?  A "courtesy warning" by the shooter to the T/O to stand to the off-side might be suggested.

• 11. Should we add the following verbiage to address aerial shotgun
targets for Buckaroos and Buckarettes? "Buckaroos and Buckarettes must
shoot at (engage) all aerial shotgun targets unless alternate targets are
provided. Aerial targets will be scored as "hit" if fired at before the target
impacts the ground. Targets that hit the ground before being fired at will be
scored as a "miss".

[Bow View Haymaker]

Tahnk ou for letting us know what is going on among the SASS tgs.

would you like coments on the proposed rules here?

Or should we limit them to the frontier spot?  Or is there a place to comment onthem on the SASS wire?

[Hedley Lamarr]

Wherever you'd like.