Got a problem/question on revolver cylinder indexing

Started by Frenchie, September 23, 2008, 11:11:30 PM

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Frenchie

Okay, got a Uberti Colt's Pocket Model of 1849. Original 5-shot percussion cylinder indexes fine; 5-shot Kirst .32 S&W Short cylinder with C ring backplate indexes fine if you work the hammer smartly; 6-shot R&D .32 S&W Short cylinder with rotating 6-pin backplate starts to move but stops before lockup. Hammer won't go all the way back and goes to half-cock notch when released. Turning the cylinder by hand makes the bolt click into place and allows the hammer to go to full cock.

A 5-shot cylinder has five ratchet teeth 72 degrees apart, a 6-shot cylinder has six teeth 60 degrees apart. Intuitively this means the hand is too long

Hang on a second... I just pulled back the hammer very smartly a couple times and it started working. Now I just got it to lock up 12 times in a row by really yanking the hammer back. This is what happened with the Kirst cylinder, I had to really work it and then it started indexing. Something is being worn into the proper geometry. I just broke it down and the ratchet teeth look the same but the hand looks slightly different at the top than when I put the cylinder in. Hmm...

Okay, I just put the Kirst cylinder in and it didn't quite lock up the first couple tries, but then it did, but of course I have to bring the hammer back smartly, which is normal for the Kirst.

And now I just tried the original percussion cylinder and it locks up fine, even when I pull the hammer back r e a l  s l o w.

Well, I'm going to play with this thing and see if I can get the Kirst and R&D cylinders to work any better, by which I mean wearing in the hand to the cylinder ratchets, or wearing it out, or even breaking the poor, abused thing. It'll be worth it if I learn something, but I am aware that learning is not a strong point with me...   :)

If anybody has any idea of what it is I'm actually doing here, please speak up, I need all the help I can get to understand it.  ;D
Yours, &c.,

Guy 'Frenchie' LaFrance
Vous pouvez voir par mes vêtements que je ne suis pas un cowboy.

Coffinmaker

Frenchie,

Setting up an 1849 Pocket to work with the conversion cylinders is ............... not fun.  They require a bit of "fiddling" and, there is possibility the conversion cylinders "may" require their own hand.

Good luck!!

Coffinmaker

Frenchie

The more I work the R&D cylinder around, the smoother it gets. Now I can thumb back the hammer slowly and it comes around and locks down just fine. I can even point it straight up and the firing pins won't hang up on the frame. Yee haw! Now I want to get some .32 S&W Shorts and make some smoke with my little pocket friend.
Yours, &c.,

Guy 'Frenchie' LaFrance
Vous pouvez voir par mes vêtements que je ne suis pas un cowboy.

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