45-75 brass from Buffalo arms?

[will52100]

Anybody tried the 45-75 brass that buffalo arms is selling?  They've got some sized from 50-90 starline brass.  Any opions?


thanks, Will

[john boy]

Any opions?

Last year, BAC was making 45-75 brass that was out of specifications.  This was based on comparisons to original UMC and WRC brass.  So we called them ... they are now making the brass correctly to 45-75 specifications

[will52100]

So there making them rite now?

Thanks!

[McLernon]

I ordered some but it has bot arrived. I will post results when I try them.

Mc

[McLernon]

I received my 45-75 brass from Buffalo Arms yesterday. It has been formed from 50-90 Sharps brass but has had the rim outside diameter and thickness reduced to the standard 45-75 dimensions. Chambers and ejects just fine. Waiting for my dies and bullet mould and I will gone to the range.

Mc

[McLernon]

Keep in mind that the Uberti 1876 in 45-75 is NOT 45-75 Win. It is 45-75 Uberti and requires special dies as it has a shorter neck than the 45-75 Win. Buffalo Armsihas ordered some.
The 45-75 Win fire form fine
Mc

[larryo_1]

I have 348 cases, 50-90 Sharps cases and Bertram cases.  I did turn the 348 cases and the 50-90 cases just in front of the rim so that they would work properly.  The Bertram cases aren't worth squat let alone what they charge for them.  My own opinion of course from personal experience.  I feel that the 348 cases are probably the toughest followed by the 50-90 cases.  the 50-90 cases are the easiest to make into 45-75 cases tho.  Once they are fire-formed in any rifle then the best thing to do is just neck-size when reloading.  At least that is what I do.  Just a note in passing.   

[shrapnel]

I called Buffalo Arms and they don't have any  45-75 brass. Anyone else out there that has some they want to sell?

[Buck Stinson]

I don't know why so many seem to be opposed to using .348 cases.  For the past 35 years I've reformed .348 Winchester cases for both the .45-75 and .50 Express.  I have reloaded most of them at least 40 times and fired them in over 20 different original guns and NEVER had a single one fail or any gun malfunction.   Won't these cases work in the repop guns?

Adios,
Buck   

[CarverTripp]

Agree Buck, I drove myself nuts trying to find made up 45-75. I shoot the Uberti and as it turns out the dimensions of the Uberti chamber are not the same as 45-75 Win. I'm using .348 Win and fire form. A great, tuff case.
Carver

[larryo_1]

I have several hundred rounds of filre-formed 348 brass and have never had any complaints.  All mine were fire-formed and then neck-szed only.  That "coke bottle" shape dissapeared after a couple of firings or so.  That brass is tough and cheap--so far anyway. And I agree that flap over 45-75 cases seems dumb.  The 348 brass works so why fight it?

[CarverTripp]

I don't know that I would go so far as to say, "that flap over 45-75 cases seems dumb", I think it's more rooted in the enthusiasm when buying and shooting the 1876 for the first time. Speaking for myself, I went into it knowing that 45-75 ammo was no longer available and then set out to find cases and reload my own. It seemed at the time that reforming .348 win cases was going the long way about it. So I did the search for cases already formed only to find in the end that even if I found them, My Uberti chamber was not the same dimensions as the original, go figure. So it turns out, at least for me, that the reformed .348 Win. was, and is, the best case for my rifle.
Carver

[larryo_1]

Carver:
I did try Bertram and had bad luck with those cases.  I do have 50-90 AK cases that are about as good as the 348 cases but not quite as strong.  I also found that even though the Uberti fire-formed cases change shape when fired, they also give a bit more in case capacity. So by just neck sizing, both brands work great--for me.  I am not fussy about headstamped brass.  Perhaps Starline will come out with brass by late fall as they have told me in prior e-mails that I have gotten from them but that is a "Wait and see" situation.

[Dirty Brass]

I'll throw my hat in here too for 348 cases. I reformed over 100 of them, and so far I've not had a single problem in my Cimarron Uberti gun. I did some 50 AK too, but haven't fired these yet.

[Grizzly Adams]

Another vote for the 348 case.   I have never had one fail, and they work splendidly in my originals.  I went out with a friend to test his new Uberti 45-75, and my loads made with fire formed 348 brass worked just fine in his rifle.  I would also not that the brass came out of his rifle looking exactly like the brass that comes out of the chamber of my original 45-70.  FWIW.

[larryo_1]

Griz:
One of these days, I am going to check out what I said about case capacity and let you know.  Weigh an unfired case against one that is shot in my rifle.  I'll let you know the results as I think that the Uberti case has a bit more capacity than the originals do.

[Grizzly Adams]

I have a Lee factory crimp die for the 45-75 and the 45-60.  Works as advertised.  

As to how important it is, that will depend on the bullet you are using.  I use #457122 and 457191 which are pretty much duplicates of the original bullets.  In order to get the correct OAL, the bullets must be seated below the crimp grove and a bit forward on the shoulder of the bullet.  As Larryo has noted,  this is no problem with BP.  Of course, it could result in the bullet being pushed into the case with smokeless.  The factory crimp die solves that problem. 

On the other hand, Springfield Slim's "big lube" bullet (305 for the 45-60) seats exactly at the crimp grove for the correct overall length.