SMOKELESS POWDER IN PERCUSSION PISTOLS??

Started by musketiii, May 01, 2008, 08:46:14 AM

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musketiii

I realize this is an invitation for some Rightous Pomposity...Please Don't get upset ..I am just curious to see if anyone has tried some light loads. I have heard of a guy using shotgun shell propellant. I have no intention of trying it myself. Thanks.... ???

Noz

No, I'm a coward and like my fingers and eyes where they are.

St. George

Starting a post with the phrase 'righteous pomposity' when you're asking for help may not be the best way to begin.

Though today's percussion guns are metallurgicaly stronger that their predecessors - thanks to modern advanced refinement techniques - they're still not as strong as those weapons made for smokeless powder and it should not be used in them.

It's a Safety issue, from both sides - with the Manufacturer warrantying black powder propellant because the weapons are proofed for it - and for the Shooter to understand that proving process and respecting it for the safety measure that it is.

Using smokeless in a percussion weapon is inviting trouble.

But they're 'your' eyes and hands - and if you're tired of using them on a regular basis - then pay no attention...

Vaya,

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Long Johns Wolf

I'd like to second St. George... althoug ther was an article published in the January 1961 edition of GUNS by Frank Jury, titled SHOOTING THE CENTENNIAL ARMY .44.
Among others Jury tested a couple of BP loads but also tried duplex loads of BP plus a marginal amount of Red Dot shotgun powder. Either with the BP over or under the nitro charge. The objective then appearantly was ..."to solve the fouling problem always present with black loads."
Read for yourselves.
However, being a fan of CAS and the Belgian Colt aks Centaure aka Centennial Army I am not happy about this paper and hope no pard or pardettes is playing such dangerous games.
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Driftwood Johnson

Howdy

Well, I know I'm going to get in trouble for this, but I was just perusing through my copy of Ruger and his Guns, by R. L. Wilson (yes, I am aware that he is in jail). It is a very interesting book. There is a passage about the development of the Ruger Old Army percussion revolver by one of the engineers at Ruger, whose name escapes me right now. Anyoo, they felt the Old Army was so strong they decided to test it with Smokeless powder. They had to ream out the holes in the nipples, to get a cap to light the powder, and they used Bullseye. The gun apparantly survived all the Bullseye tests they subjected it to.

*****DISCLAIMER: DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS YOURSELF, AND YOU DID NOT HEAR IT FROM ME!!!*****
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Black Powder

Ever tried putting gasoline in a heating oil tank?  The filler caps are marked and color-coded for a reason.

Aside from the obvious danger of new fangled in a percussion pistol, who'd want to?

  • no smoke
  • no smell
  • no flash
  • no fun

BP
I've got my excuses and I'm stickin' to 'em.

Fingers McGee

Quote from: Black Powder on May 01, 2008, 11:30:05 AM
Ever tried putting gasoline in a heating oil tank?  The filler caps are marked and color-coded for a reason.

Aside from the obvious danger of new fangled in a percussion pistol, who'd want to?

  • no smoke
  • no smell
  • no flash
  • no fun

+1

Fingers (whose pomposity has yet to be tested) McGee
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Dick Dastardly

Ya see,

A pard posts about a smokeyless fad heathen powder test where the pressure curve was softer than Holy Black.  Now comes a pard asking about using heathen fad smokeyless powder in a black powder gun.  Soon there will be some dang inventor that will put charge and ball in a little brass bottle and call 'em cartridges.  After that, there goes the neighborhood.  Guns won't load from the front no more and we'll have to run around like chickens pickin' up 'em lil brass bottles.

I'm against it I'm tellin'  ya.  Whut's this world commin' to?  I say, "use the Holy Black in 'em front stuffers just like it says in the book".  If they were meant to burn heathen fad smokeyless powder it would have said in that book that came with the gun "it's ok to shoot heathen fad smokeyless powder in this hear gun".  But, it don't say that, so don't do it.

If ya do  do it, go off behind the barn by yerownself and do it alone and don't never tell nobody.

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Delmonico

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Howdy!

It's easy to think what seems to be getting thought, but did anybody else see this in his post?



Posted by Musketiiiii:

          "I am just curious ... I have no intention of trying it myself."

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