Prolly a Dumb Question

Started by Leo Tanner, February 11, 2008, 01:19:38 PM

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Leo Tanner

February 11, 2008, 01:19:38 PM
I'm sure it's been adressed here before, but don't have the time to read all the topics.
     I've got an itch to shoot the Holy Black in .357.  Can cartriges be obtained outta the box, or are they hand loads only?  I mention black powder at our local place and they try to sell me a bunch of equipment that I really can't afford right now.  Just wanna put down my money and breathe some smoke.  I'm sure I coulda googled this or sumpthin, but I've got the best info here so far when it comes to guns and related items.
     Thanks in advance.


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Driftwood Johnson

#1
February 11, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
That's bad business! How long do you think I'd stay in operation if it cost me money every time I pulled a job? If he'd pay me that much to stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

Ya probably inherited every penny ya got!

Leo Tanner

#2
February 11, 2008, 02:43:05 PM
Thanks Driftwood!
     I knew it had to be out there.  I woulda settled for .38s if I had to, but it doesn't look like I'll have to now.


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Dick Dastardly

#3
February 11, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
Howdy Leo,

Welcome to the Darkside!!

If and when you decide to load up your own bp ammo, there's a lot of very good stuff been written and put away for yourself.  It's above in Cuts' library called a Child Board named the "Dark Arts".  You will find enough reading there to get you into bp reloading without too much cost or pain.

Shoot 'em factory loads and enjoy the smoke.  Save the brass.  You have entered a whole new world of fun.  Glad you're here.

DD-DLoS
Avid Ballistician in Holy Black
Riverboat Gambler and Wild Side Rambler
Gunfighter Ordinar
Purveyor of Big Lube supplies

Leo Tanner

#4
February 11, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
Thanks D.D.
     It'll be a lot of fun, an make me a dirty RAT as well I spose.


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Pettifogger

#5
February 11, 2008, 10:41:31 PM
Several companies load BP or the subs.  Ten-X and Thunder Ridge also sell loaded BP rounds in a variety of calibers.

Silver Creek Slim

#6
February 14, 2008, 04:11:06 PM
Welcome to the Darkside, Leo.  ;)

Slim
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Lucky Irish Tom

#7
February 15, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
The pull of the Darkside is strong Leo, give in.  It will soon consume your time and your wallet, but you will recieve unlimited fun in return.  ;D
If ya can't be fast it's good to be Lucky!
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Leo Tanner

#8
February 15, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
I believe this WILL be the weekend!  I got a bunch a cans to recycle (soda of course) and guess what's right down the lane from the recycle place?  An indoor range that holds CAS matches  ;D  Turns out they stock the Holy stuff just for that reason.  Should have called them long ago.

Thank you all.


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Leo Tanner

#9
February 15, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
Never mind.  Turns out the guy I ran in to at work was right about them having CAS events but was wrong about them stocking BP.  I'm going to take some time and read through the Dark Arts thread and see what I can get done on my own. as D.D. reccomended.  It'll prolly be more satisfying that way anyhow. 


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Dick Dastardly

#10
February 15, 2008, 04:57:01 PM
Howdy Leo,

If you already reload, loading black powder isn't a mystery.  If I were just starting out I'd probably try something like APP first.  That way I could use my same old heathen bullets.  The thing about reloading subs is that you don't compress them as much as you do with Holy Black.  There is good data available on the web.

Take it easy, do a few, shoot a few, learn as you go.  There's no need to rush a good thing.  You will get a lot of advise.  Some will be good, others not.  Your trick will be to sort out which is which.

Get a good black powder reloading manual.  Lyman makes a very good one.

If and when you are ready to cast black powder bullets, I can help.

Keep the smokey end downrange.

DD-DLoS
Avid Ballistician in Holy Black
Riverboat Gambler and Wild Side Rambler
Gunfighter Ordinar
Purveyor of Big Lube supplies

Leo Tanner

#11
February 15, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Thanks.
    I can see this is going to bring a whole new element to my favorite pastime...just what I was looking for!  I feel an obsession comin on.


Leo
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Lucky Irish Tom

#12
February 15, 2008, 06:34:26 PM
Alas, so many unenlightened vendors in the world.

There is a great deal of satisfaction in loading your own Leo.  I started with a single stage press clamped to a piece of plywood that was clamped to a foldable work mate table. 
If ya can't be fast it's good to be Lucky!
Official Irish Whiskey Taster
SASS 40271, WARTHOG, Darksider, Dirty RATS, RO2

Sod Buster

#13
February 15, 2008, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Lucky Irish Tom on February 15, 2008, 06:34:26 PM
I started with a single stage press clamped to a piece of plywood that was clamped to a foldable work mate table. 

Hmmmmmm......now I have an excuse to set up another press.  ;D
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Single Action Six

#14
February 22, 2008, 09:41:42 PM
In response to "Prolly a Dumb Question"..


Wok mevbit da lostal ah nija loyhas defbe ???   Tiv sirt goaz becma.. ot yanew jitad motgip todop. :-X

Ixnay del "HOBLAS JOP BUDA FYTHU, MOPAS BUJDA!!">:( 


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Cuts Crooked

#15
February 23, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: Single Action Six on February 22, 2008, 09:41:42 PM
In response to "Prolly a Dumb Question"..


Wok mevbit da lostal ah nija loyhas defbe ???   Tiv sirt goaz becma.. ot yanew jitad motgip todop. :-X

Ixnay del "HOBLAS JOP BUDA FYTHU, MOPAS BUJDA!!">:( 


Single Action Six

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Yeah...wat he said!!!  ???
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Noz

#16
February 23, 2008, 10:17:31 AM
Dumb Question? Nope.

This is a dumb question.

Several years ago I was raising ostrich. A salesman was interested but said he had a dumb question. I told him "there is no such thing as a dumb question, Ask away."

He said "OK, Do the little ones eat on their own right away or do they have to nurse for a while".

Steel Horse Bailey

#17
February 23, 2008, 10:28:10 AM
Yep.

Dumb.

Dumber than dirt.
"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

Leo Tanner

#18
February 23, 2008, 10:50:20 AM
I have no idea what you said C.C. but neary a one of those emoticons you used looked very pleased.  ;)

"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.
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