40-60 original bullet?

Started by Buffboy, December 05, 2007, 08:02:53 PM

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Buffboy

I've been using the 245gr(some are advertised as 240gr out the the same mold)  bullet (Lyman # 403169) from a couple different suppliers for my 40-60 Chaparral. It's working well for both black(subs) and smokeless loads but I'd like to know if anyone has found someone making a copy of the original 220(?) gr bullet.

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Quote from: Buffboy on December 05, 2007, 08:02:53 PM
I've been using the 245gr(some are advertised as 240gr out the the same mold)  bullet (Lyman # 403169) from a couple different suppliers for my 40-60 Chaparral. It's working well for both black(subs) and smokeless loads but I'd like to know if anyone has found someone making a copy of the original 220(?) gr bullet.

Buffboy, I have no first hand experience with the 40-60, but I am sure someone will chime in who does.  I favor the original Winchester molds for the 76 calibers, and I have seen a lot of them in 40-60 caliber - mostly on e-bay.

Maybe John Boy or w44wcf will be able to help.
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QuoteI'd like to know if anyone has found someone making a copy of the original 220(?) gr bullet.
Buff, call Lyman Customer Service.  If my eyes didn't failed me, read in The Guns of the Old West that Lyman dug out the original cherry and is making the original mold
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Buffboy,

The Ideal mold number for the .40-60 was 403168.  In the Ideal 1933 catalog, it states "Standard bullet for the .40-60 Winchester".

It became a special order bullet mold in the late 1930's and I don't see it listed in any of the catalogs as a standard mold after that.

Hopefully, John Boy is right and Lyman is/will be making the mold once again.

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Hell-Er High Water

The Lyman web site shows bullet 403168 to be available in an "updated and dimensioned to modern standards" version.

Midway shows this two cavity mould to be 0.406" diameter and in stock.

It looks like it is available for those that want to give it a try.

HHW

Buffboy

Thank you all for the info. I'ts been a few months since I was actively looking for this bullet. I see things have changed a bit since. I have a friend that does all my casting if I supply the mold. I'll have to see about getting one.

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shooter93

I have an Original Winchester..250 gr. 40/60....408 I believe it is. I'd take what is fair and I'd need a few bullets from it to have a custom 4 cav cut...I've never used it. It's in excellent shape...I also have a 38/55 original Winchester mold to in good shape.

Buffboy

Quote from: shooter93 on December 09, 2007, 08:09:48 PM
I have an Original Winchester..250 gr. 40/60....408 I believe it is. I'd take what is fair and I'd need a few bullets from it to have a custom 4 cav cut...I've never used it. It's in excellent shape...I also have a 38/55 original Winchester mold to in good shape.

I appreciate the the offer Shooter93, but I'm looking for the lighter 210gr(according to CoW) bullet. It doesn't matter too much for a while as I've just balanced the checkbook. After having to shell out over $200 for a new duty holster and magazine carrier for work, I'm about tapped for gun stuff cash. No molds of any kind for a couple months :(.

Just to make my depression complete, tell me about the 38-55 mold, casts at .381-2?

shooter93

I'd have to cast a bullet or two and check it because I'm not sure...I  never used it either. They will both be aroud awhile if you do have an interest, I don't have to sell them  I just don't need them and they'd probably end up on ebay anyway. I don't know the alloy they used either...probably pretty soft so it's possible with ww's they might be closer to you 210. If I get casting soon I will run a few with my alloy to see. Feel free to email me if any of this works for you.
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