Uberti OLD WEST ANTIQUE PATINA FINISH

Rube Burrows · June 14, 2007, 10:21:09 PM

Hello, I was on the Uberti website and they offer a special finish in OLD WEST ANTIQUE PATINA FINISH.
I was wondering if anyone has any pics of a Uberti in this finish. they do not show one on the site and I could not find one on gunbroker nor any post on here showing or even talking about that finish.
Thanks.

Rube Burrows · June 23, 2007, 08:35:59 AM

Thanks. I finally found that page.
Uberti didnt seem to have that finish on their page. Or atleast I couldnt find it.

St. George · June 23, 2007, 09:41:19 AM

I always thought that an 'antiqued finish' - when offered by the dealer - meant a 'factory second' or 'blemished' finish that was retailed at a reduced price.

Apparently not.

'Patina' - when I first started collecting guns a long time ago - meant 'rust pitting' - and no one ever offered much money for evidence of poor care, poor storage and the like.

Whoever figured out 'patina' was a marketing genius.

Scouts Out!

Trinity · July 04, 2007, 11:22:52 AM

I've always understood patina to mean a form of corrosion. Somewhere along the way, patina became desireable. Go figure.

For cowboy shooters (who are supposed to be portraying people of the late 1800's), it probably began when some decided that they wanted their guns to look 100 years old.

My question: Does that mean that the guns are supposed to look like they had been laying around since the 1700's?

Deadeye Don · July 05, 2007, 10:50:16 AM

Quote from: Trinity on July 04, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
I've always understood patina to mean a form of corrosion. Somewhere along the way, patina became desireable. Go figure.

For cowboy shooters (who are supposed to be portraying people of the late 1800's), it probably began when some decided that they wanted their guns to look 100 years old.

My question: Does that mean that the guns are supposed to look like they had been laying around since the 1700's?

I agree. It doesnt make much sense to me to buy a gun that you pay extra for just so it looks over 100 years old when you are a protraying someone who lived in the mid to late 1800s. If someone back then received a firearm in that condidion from a hardware store, they would send it back ....or worse. IMHO. Safe shooting. Deadeye.

Forty Rod · July 05, 2007, 11:17:45 AM

I've seen one bought at the Cimmaron store and the "aging" is too uniform, not like a real gun where the finish may be unaffected or less affected in places like the bottom of the barrel, under the bulge ot the cylinder and recoil shield, etc. It simply didn't look right. I've antiqued a few myself and they look better than the commercial product.

Do it yourself. It's not that hard.

BTW, I have several guns that are well over 100 years old and show very little wear or aging.

Arcey · July 05, 2007, 01:59:09 PM

Quote from: Forty Rod on July 05, 2007, 11:17:45 AM
BTW, I have several guns that are well over 100 years old and show very little wear or aging.

Bought 'em new 'n took good care of 'em, did ya, Forty?

Deadeye Don · July 05, 2007, 02:02:25 PM

Quote from: Arcey on July 05, 2007, 01:59:09 PM
Bought 'em new 'n took good care of 'em, did ya, Forty?

Ok now THAT was funny!!

Forty Rod · July 05, 2007, 05:17:45 PM

Nope! Took 'em away from smart alecks when they were new and took good care.....wait a minute. This ain't helpin'.

Let me get back to you with an answer that don't shoot me in the foot again.

Trinity · July 05, 2007, 06:44:54 PM

That's my big brother. Here, I'll help.

If he had bought them new, they would look like this:

rswjeep · July 06, 2007, 06:44:47 AM

Hey, I'm new to this website and new to black powder guns. I just bought the Uberti 1847 Walker Kit from DGW. It's a realy nice gun that I'm excited to go shoot. This is my first kit gun. I didn't want a new blue finish. I would like to give it the old aged silver look or some type of antique patina looking finish. The gun came with a nice clean steal finish look. I would really appreciate getting some instructions on ways of doing this from you fine gentlemen. I'm at work offshore right now and hope to get started on it when I get back home. Thanks, Randy

Major 2 · July 06, 2007, 09:23:53 AM

I have defarbed dozens of guns for movie props, that this is the only reason I give ....
a period film prop should have some wear but not look 100 years old.

I've used Navel Jelly and Birch Wood Casey's rust remover...
My favorite method to age one is plain white table vinegar... it is slower and gives you time to work...

This is my 2nd Gen. Colt ...after some 30 years of shooting & reenacting use the blue was looking rather tattered do to holster wear.
Then came the new roll as a CAS shooter (note the R&D Cyl.) and it did not match .
I use Browning solution and carded, then the vinegar ....
and the ivory grips....
It has a even aged look though not a total strip , with some bluing turned brown in the tight places...

rswjeep · July 06, 2007, 11:00:58 AM

OK, now I got some ideas. The Walker Kit gun came with no blue at all, just a clean steal finish.