Cimarron Model P....need honest opinions here boys

[Marshal Deadwood]

Im thinking about a Model P Cimarron. They are suppose to be very close to the original SAA first generations in design,,,,so the question is...
A Cimarron with a 'slicked job and perhaps a quality spring kit installed,,,would be,,,,a fine gun? a moderate gun? a not so good gun?
I quite cant affored a 'real' Colt,,but I like the Colt design and was thinking a 'slicked' up Cimarron would be just the ticket?
What do you guys think? Be honest,,,brutally honest..before I spend my money!
Thanks gang,

Marshal Deadwood

[buck]

  get TWO of them!!   

  I'm in the same boat as you , marshal.  I want to get two colts...but the price is a lil steep for me at this time.  The Mrs. just doesnt understand why I need so many guns.    I wish she would get her priorities straight.   

  I'm shootin two ss ruger new vaqueros in .45 colt and I think they are great.  They shoot right were I'm lookin...sometimes I must not be lookin at the target. hehe    But I'm always havin fun!

  What Ive heard and read ... the cimarron Model P is a great gun and if that is what you want I say go for it.

[Four-Eyed Buck]

I've been running a Cimarron Model P in .357 for quite a few years now. Only change I made was a Wolff hammer spring( actually two of them, wore one out). It's given me great service with little or no problems and has a lot of clean matches to it's credit. You won't do yourself any harm getting one..............................Buck

[Doc Shapiro]

Cleaned up, it'll run fine.  Good solid guns.

[Howdy Doody]

I started out with a pair of them. Sent one back to Texas , due to indexing issues, got it back and it still spit lead. I pressed on and then the other one started in. Probably all taken care of by these days, but I was disappointed. I started to shoot a lot and it was time for me to get something else. I traded them in for a pair of Vaqueros and I found them to be reliable. I never had any issues with the RVs, but after a few years, I started branching out to other classes and such and parked them. I shot those for the first time in 2 years after blowing the dust off and they still shoot troublefree.
Now, I try my best to only post positive, but I really felt like I should have gotten the RVs in the first place, but I wanted to be cowboy and the model P is a lot more cowboy than the ruger.  Now lately I have been drooling over the new Taurus. So, maybe I will get a pair of them soon. I wasn't estatic that Cimmeron took 2 months to get my pistol back to me, even if it had been fixed.
Sorry, I can't be more positive for you, but maybe they are a lot better now than 8 years ago.

[Long Johns Wolf]

I am an "Uberti" Cowboy shooter for many years and Cimarron is their US distributor. So we are talking Uberti quality and reliability here. Have been owning and shooting a quite a few models P in .44 Colt/Special and .45 Colt and barrels from 4" to 12" including Bisley and Flattop, with many thousands of rounds of CAS and service
loads through them. Even went hunting jack rabbits with my old nickel plated SAA with 5,5" barrel in .45 Colt
from 1985 production, at up to 80 yards. My current match pistols are 2 black powder frames with 7,5" barrel in .44 Colt/Special.
Out of the box they are OK but if you want to be more serious you may want to deburr them internaly, exchange the bolt spring to one of those piano wire springs, have the forcing cone adjusted to 11° and polished, and if you have problems with the sights have the rear sight squared. These additional jobs would set you back between around $ 20,00 to 100,00 plus the cost of the pistol. Make sure to get the model with the separate cylinder bushing.
The only problem I ever had between > 15 Uberti Colt SAA's was 1 (one) broken bolt spring a couple of years back.
Bootsie

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

And now for a completely different opinion - Brutally Honest, right?

I am continually dissapointed by Uberti qulaity. But I am a bit of a perfectionist, so take that into account. I have owned several Uberti guns over the years, starting with a Cap & Ball revolver I bought in 1968. I can tell you without reservation that that older gun stands head and shoulders over anything I have seen come out of Uberti since then. My complaint with all Uberti guns is they run their CNC machinery too fast, trying to keep up with demand, and so parts come off the machinery with rough finishes, burrs, and sharp edges. In times past, those imperfections would have been cleaned up by hand in the finishing stages, but today hand labor is too expensive, so rough finishes and burrs go right on through production. That's why the springs are so heavy, to overcome the extra friction caused by the rough finishes left behind after the parts were made.

I bought a Cimarron Cattleman used a few years ago. It had the worst trigger pull of any revolver I've ever owned. Bumps, and uneven pull. The front sight was leaning on an angle, because the barrel had not been screwed in the correct amount. I eventually traded that pistol off. I took a chance on a second one a few years ago, and it was better, but it still had shortcomigs. The most glaring problem was the cam on the cast hammer had not filled properly in the mold, and this very critical surface was improperly shaped and had a rough, pebbly surface. It took a lot of TLC to get it to work correctly. Just look at the knurling on the hammer of any Uberti. It is crudely cast on when the hammer is cast. A Colt or a USFA has a machined hammer and the knurling is rolled on properly as a secondary operation. It is sharp and crisp, rather than the poor excuse for knurling on a cast hammer.

I was visiting my favorite gunsmith just the other day, and we were checking out some parts on some recently imported Uberti guns. I did not see much material difference in finish of the parts than I ever have.

Like I say, I am a perfectionist. You get what you pay for. Ubertis can be made perfectly servicable with a little knowledgeable TLC. But I am still not impressed with their overall quality out of the box.

[Captain Rob Page]

  We have two Cimarron/Uberti revolvers. Wife shoots one and I shoot one. Both in 45 Colt. Both great guns . All we did was replace springs, and started shooting. I think you would like them!

[Galloway]

Like Driftwood pointed out there are so many of them made imperfections constantly get through. Being single however I have plenty TLC to give mine so I'm sticking with them. I also appreciate that I can  experience three different guns from the 1800's for the price of one nickled colt.