front sight for a cut down barrel.

Started by Tubac, March 01, 2007, 02:37:45 PM

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Tubac

In the BOSS forum there was talk of using a cut down dime to replace a front sight, by pinning it to the barrel .
I'm intrigued by this, as I have a Merwin & Hulbert .44 with a cut dowm barrel. The only way I could figure to do this would be to mill a slot the thickness of the dime into the barrel and silver solder it in.
Would there be any other way?
Thanks
Tubac, who has an 1871 Mexican 10 centavo.
from the Confederate Territory of Arizona

Stacey Lee

It could be Staked too if formed into 1911A1 stake configuration. Not sure how well the Centovo would hold up though, being American tourist flesh its made out of ? Just teasing.
That would be alot of work, and a Dove-tail might be easier, then get a Uberti made Colt Flat Top Target Cattlemen front sight base, German Silver blank ( or Silver Centavo )for the front blade and your good to go, for real. And it would be adjustable too, just a thought for ya.
Another way to do this, albeit not period correct as so many people like to use this phrase here even if they drive pick-ups to the shoots is, to get some Locktight Brand sight Epoxy in black, From Brownellss, about $8.00 , and it will hold that sight in for sure, it is tough stuff and I run it on a CZ pistol I have in the mighty 40 S&W after I staked it too just for good measure .
And if htere is enough meat on that barrel, you could cut two wheeled slots ( milling machine) on each side of the sight where it goes on the barrel and one for the dime and drill through and actually roll pin a piece of silver into the third slot. Makes it replaceable that way too, but not sure if you have enough metal to work with on that gun ? I have seen that done too ona .22 pistol a customer had, but he had allot of metal to work with on the barrel of course.

Hope this helps, Stacey Lee, out  ;D



St. George

Staking's completely out of the question - given the placement of the sight - as is the use of any epoxy or roll pin to make it faster to install.

During the time frame - a slot was cut by hand using a small file - then the front sight was shaped to fit the slot, and pinned in place with a solid pin.

Today - you can achieve the same effect by use of a milling machine.

Mill the slot - shape the front sight - insert - drill through both the sight and rib - pin and peen.

In the case of that cut barrel - mill the slot - ensure that the coin's going to be a tight -'drive-fit' and use a low-temp silver solder - then, clean the join lines 'very' carefully and buff very gently to minimize heat discoloration and 'meld' the finishes together.

A Merwin, Hulbert deserves at least that much care and thought.

Good luck - go slowly and you should be rewarded with a neat, workmanlike result.

Vaya,

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Tubac

Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a 'smith to do the work.
Here are photos of the old gal.

Tubac
from the Confederate Territory of Arizona

Mustang Gregg

How is the front sight attached the barrel on an uncut M&H?  Have you investigated that yet?  Original ways are sometimes the best fixes.
Or I'd probably go with St George's recommendation.  It appears there is enough metal in the area for a dovetail to be milled.

No way it could be staked (as in M-1911A1).

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Quote from: Mustang Gregg on March 03, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
How is the front sight attached to the barrel on an uncut M&H?

BTW, this is a pin, not a screw, despite the appearance.
Notice how the rib stops just short of the muzzle.

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Tubac

Thanks for the photo. but my revolver has no rib on the barrel. The barrel itself will have to be milled.

Tubac
from the Confederate Territory of Arizona

Montana Slim

The "un-ribbed" MH revolvers, such as yours, had a front sight that is integral with the barrel. A few options for you include: a shallow dovetail (consider a scratch-built), a milled slot to press in a blade (ala Colt SAA), or perhaps solder-on a base and pin the blade per Mustang Gregg's photo.

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Tubac

Thanks Slim,

I'm thinking of a milled slot and sil;ver solder.

Tubac
from the Confederate Territory of Arizona

Cincinnati Slim

Howdy,

I'd like to recommend a front sight solution.

Order a Remington dovetail mounted front sight for a Uberti 1858 Remmie from Dixie or VTI.

Wheeler engineering makes a neat little dovetail cutting fixture, Midway has it for about thirty bucks.

I found a 8 inch file the right thickness at Home Depot. Followed the Wheeler Eng. instructions and thirty minutes later I drifted a new sight into the dovetail with a brass punch ! ;D

The sight is the right height for a .44 caliber with a 7-8 inch barrel. If your M-H barrel is shorter you'll probably need to file just a little off the new sight. The Uberti Remmie sights are cheap, buy two so if you screw one up you're covered !

Cheers,

Cincinnati Slim

22lr

You mean like this?

This came from Doug Turnbull's website.  It's not mine, but maybe someday...

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