Model 3 Identification

Started by trapdoor, December 16, 2006, 02:11:52 PM

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trapdoor

I have done more inquiries about the S&W breaktop revolver I bought, it appears that it is a   model 3,
  2nd American       44 Russsian cartrige

The condition is excellent Blueing very good.  I still dont have the exact year of manufacture. Serial is 1886x. Can anyone tell me the year?

John Henry

Trapdoor,
     The date can be narrowed down to the year by the serial number by someone who has the mfg. data, a letter from Roy Jenks, S & W historian, can give the ship date to the dealer. Probably a 44 Russian cal.  If it specs out good and is shootable (black powder only), I wouldn't mess with it as far as refinish as it tends to diminish the collectabilty, David Chicoine has a great book out on S & W repairs, dissassembly, etc. you can fine him online on a google search....Congrats......John Henry

Texas Lawdog

I have recently purchased an older model S&W break open revolver in 38 S&W cal. It was manufactured around 1900.  It looks somewhat like an Iver Johnson. I don't know anything about the gun. It appears to be tight. I took it to a gunsmith to be checked out. I would like to shoot it but only if I can find some black powder cartridges for it.  I paid $160. for it, I don't if I got a good deal or not.  I have always wanted an old S&W revolver for my collection.  I carried a S&W Model 66 in the early 70's as a Police Officer. When I get it back from the gunsmith, I will check the last patent date on it to get an approximate date of manufacture. I would appreciate any info on these revolvers. It is nickel plated and most of the nickel is still okay.
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Texas Lawdog

Does the ownership of this old S&W qualify me for membership in BOSS?
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St. George

To learn a bit more on the Model 3 and on the small-framed break-top - send me a PM with the serial number, and I'll see what I can do, since that information's available, and not everything needs to go through the factory.

As far as what was spent on that little S&W - it depends entirely on condition and location of purchase, since some places seem to be higher-priced than others.

Since all you have to 'do' to check out the piece is to see how it locks up when in battery - beware of being over-charged by someone who has no clear idea of what he's supposed to do beyond that.

As to shooting it - modern-made factory smokeless has a low enough pressure for safety's sake - Smith & Wesson didn't 'harden' their frames until after 1914 - and ammunition manufacturers know this.

Now - as far as a membership in BOSS is concerned - you'll have to ask Joss House, since it was my understanding that it was for full-sized break-tops.

Vaya,

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St. George

Between 1872 - 1874, the Second Model American serial number range runs between 8000 and 32800, with a production total of 20,735.

Given your description - yours 'may' be refinished - so look under the left grip for a 'star' as a mark of a factory job.

Vaya,

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trapdoor

St George

Thanks for the Info, much appreceated.

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