speed or accuracy

[Cyrille]

 Which discipline is paramount in SASS/CAS competition accuracy or speed? I think that accuracy should take precedence for the simple reason that one must hit what one is firing at in order to score. If I shoot 5 times and hit the target every time in say 2 minutes and someone else hits 4 of the 5 targets in say 1 3/4 minutes adding 4 seconds to this score would give that shooter a total of 109 seconds whereas I have a score of 120 seconds if my addition is correct, and I loose the stage to someone who was not as accurate is that correct? Just wondering.

[Guage Rod]

Cyrille, If misses are 5 second Penalty as they are in SASS then The shooter who shot the 5 shots and missed one in 100 seconds, would have a time of 105 seconds.  If you are shooting NCOWS, misses are counted as 10 seconds, and the shooter with one miss would have 110 second score. 

If a person were competting in a match in SASS or NCOWS the time of 160 seconds would be rather slow for shooting two pistols (10 shots), 1 rifle- ten shots, and one shot gun 4 shots and in NCOWS, 4 pocket pistol; shots, unless there was a reload or something tricky. 

A competive shooter for could do all of the above, including the pocket pistol (NCOWS) in uknder 60 seconds and still hit all of the targets. 

I aint no where near that fast or accurate, but with continued practice a person can always improve.  The second best place I believe to shave time is to work on the transition moves.  Using both hands to holster a weapon as the other is drawn, and the like.  Doc Shapiero has some vintage vidio on this forum that Talks about just that. 

I do not know what vinue you shoot but there are also penalties for shooting out sequence.  Look up the by-laws for the organization you shoot with and it will tell you about them.  HTH (Hope this helps)

VAYA CON DIOS!     

[Micheal Fortune]

Well you go as fast as you can and try not to miss!   

Remember, you can't miss them fast enough to win...........

[Wild Ben Raymond]

Howdy! My feelings are that this is COWBOY ACTION SHOOTING! hence the word ACTION not cowboy accuracy shooting. A course of fire should have some movement to it with some slight obsticials to navagate around.(examples doorways to move through & windows to shoot through) Targets should be of reasonable size & placed at distance's that 90% of the shooters could hit 90% of the time, shooting at a fair pace and not to complex to remember the target sequence. ( no procedural traps) Of course these are just by opinions & are the type of shoots I like to attend. It just seems to me that the clubs that are growing, are the one's doing it this way because even most of the new shooters can hit the targets, maybe a might bit slower than a seasoned shooter but none the less they made the target ring & thats what keeps them coming back for more. I have seen it before a new shooter shows up at difficult shoot where targets are small & far with complex scernos, you can see the frustration in their faces. What should have been a positive experance turns into a bad one and they don't usually come back. Wild Ben Raymond

[Camille Eonich]

Just got back from Mule Camp and Red River Ray was on our posse.  He placed 3rd in traditional and I believe 3rd overall.  I don't believe that he had a single stage that took him into the 30s as far as time goes.  You can't out run a miss when you're competing against people like him.  RRR didn't have a single miss but one procedural on a very quick stage.  It probably cost him the match.  Still waiting for the scores to find out how close it was.


So the answer to your question is that no matter how fast you shoot you have to hit them all.  Accuracy is just as important as speed.

[Paper Chaser]

Remember:  a SLOW hit is much better than a FAST miss.