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Kirst ejector rod
« on: March 20, 2006, 09:28:57 PM »
I was visiting the kirst website and was provided a link to River Junction I believe it was called.  Anyway they sell the whole set up and I'm looking at the ejector rod and in the instructions it says to cut a notch in the ram rod to secure the flag of the ejector.  Are you suppose to cut the notch in the top so the flag will be between the barrel and ram rod or do you cut the notch in the web of the rammer?  And why do you need to notch at all, is the ejector rod not a captive unit?  If it isn't I'm assuming it just slides in and out of the tube at will.

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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 07:18:09 AM »
The notch is cut on the top. Flag is between the barrel and ram rod. The ejector is not spring mounted like the Colt, it's the flag in the notch that keeps it from moving when not in use.

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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 09:31:42 PM »
Here is a pic of the slot that I filed in the loading lever of my Remington Kirst Konversion.  Took all of about 10 minutes with a regular metal file,  then a dab of cold blue- Looks factory!

Hope this helps!
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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 08:25:36 AM »
Here is a shot of my two Euroarms '56 Remmy' Conversions. Kirst 44 Rem. the top pistol is newer, late production, but I cannot tell exactly what year as it has been defarbed.
the lower pistol is a 1973! both were unfired new condition with factory grease in the internals and cylinder. The older pistol has the Kirst Hand fitted Pietta conversion in it. and the newer one on top has the new Gated Kirst Uberti conversion in it. Both conversion cylinders and recoil shields swap out to either pistol and my Uberti Carbine.

This shows the flip side of what John'sejector rod looks like.
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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 08:44:08 AM »
For another question.  When you drop the loading lever to use the ejector on colt models you usually end up pointing the gund almost straight up and down what keeps the ram rod from entering the cylinder and causing problems during the emptying process?  Do you drop the loading lever turn the flag outward then close the loading lever before ejecting or just leave the lever open?

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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 09:54:43 AM »
At the unloading station I lay the gun on it's side like the picture, then release the lever, turn the flag to this side 1/2 cock ick up the back of the gun so I can rotate the cylinder with my left hand whild using the ejector rod with my right hand, muzzle resting on the stand. I shoot 44 Rem. which  uses 44 Colt brass. I have yet to have one stick in the cylinder. after a few stages they get a little sticky, but not enough to have to really haul down on the ejector rod. It is easier to do than to tell about and it gets easier with every cylinder shot. I chose the 44 Rem because it is a full six shot cylinder, not 5 and a saftey slot. So I can choose which to leave empty (or Not).
I lube all moving parts with olive oi. and I use bore butter or a lube made by a friend. seems to work very well.
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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 10:35:42 AM »
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2006, 06:09:14 AM »
For another question.  When you drop the loading lever to use the ejector on colt models you usually end up pointing the gund almost straight up and down what keeps the ram rod from entering the cylinder and causing problems during the emptying process?  Do you drop the loading lever turn the flag outward then close the loading lever before ejecting or just leave the lever open?

You better close the loading lever.
Originally you couldn't unload a Colt pointing up as you do today. Cartridges were made of copper and you were shooting a fairly large load of blackpowder, cartridges would stick bad to the chambers. You would unload a Colt by holding the frame with your right hand, put the grip against your belly, grab firmly the bullseye type flag on the ejector rod(ever wonder why it was so big in the blackpowder frames? ;D ) with your index finger and your thumb and pull hard, then rotate the cylinder with the left hand and start again for the next chamber. ;D No wonder reports on Little Big Horn state that the troopers threw away their empty revolvers.

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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2006, 08:49:06 AM »
They threw their colts away ! the guns that won the west !  ;D
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Re: Kirst ejector rod
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2006, 09:54:56 AM »
They threw their colts away ! the guns that won the west !  ;D

Guns won the West in Hollywood only. ;D
In real life it was people who won the West.

 

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