New Goex Cowboy Powder

[Howdy Doody]

I am starting to hear about it. So far I have heard that it is a consistant grained powder and in 3f. What else has anyone else heard so far and when will we be able to order up the stuff?
I am hoping that they will keep the price down and not jump the price  just because they added the word cowboy to it. Seems that is a trend I have noticed with suppliers of CAS supplies. Cowboys ain't rich ya know, jest hard workin', fun lovin' bunch of money spendin' folks.

[Cheyenne]

Black Dawge cartridges have been loaded with this new powder for the past year or two as they helped test and develop it.  Billy Boots used the ammo with this powder from BD to win FCD at Winter Range.

All other reports I've heard is it is very clean (for BP) and consistant, and leave little fouling.

I was lucky enbough to obtain a sample to try of this new powder so am going to see for myself.

Price should be comparable to FFg, maybe a quarter higher, from what I've heard.  Availability will be next month as it will 'officially' be introduced at EOT.

I also have a sample of the new Schutzen powder from Germany, and have been told it has many of the same properties that the new 'Cowboy' powder has.....price is about the same as the old Elephant powder.

I'm just thankful we still have real BP to play with.

[Howdy Doody]

All black dawg cartridges? I got some 45-70 from them and they didn't do very well in my Handi Rifle. 
I am interested in a even grained BP for a reasonable price since I would need to buy by the case and that has been 25lbs with Goex.
That is a bunch of powder to have around, but if it performs, I can sell some to pards. I don't want to pawn off something that isn't a good thing and that is why I am asking.
So pard, are you saying we can buy the product after EOT or therabouts?
Thanks. 

[Cheyenne]

Don't know about the big bores, but the smaller pistol caliber ca'tridges are loaded with it, so I am told.

[Paper Chaser]

Recently tried some 45 Colt and 38 Special from Black Dawge, shoot great but was told they were NOT the Goex Cowboy.  Am going to order a few more and plan to specify the Cowboy BP. Will let  ya'll know how they do.

[Paper Chaser]

Great shooting !!  The misses I had were ALL directly attributable to operator error.  Pleasant to shoot, good smoke, and lots of fun !!  Cleaned up super! except I had to spend a little extra time cleaning the brass on my 1866 Yellowboy but who cares?

[Shiloh Sharpie]

Why is this powder desirable over good ole blackpowder?  Clean up of BP is not really a demon and it is the real McCoy.  I just don't understand the substitutes.  This is not a criticism, I am simply and honestly asking a question.  Seems like a lot of bother to avoid something that works fine and is really a hoot.  Of course I may be missing a point here.

[Big Hext Finnigan]

Howdy Shiloh,

As I understand it, this is GOEX BP, but with a Cowboy designation.
Hope that helps clear things up.. Haw (get it.. BP.. clear up.. )
Adios,

[Cuts Crooked]

Info received from Bill Knight tells me that this stuff is nothing special. It appears to be 2F Goex with more "fines" in it, making it a combination 2f/3F powder. Sort of a middle-of-the-road BP so to speak.

Bill was told that it fouls very fast when used in charges over 40grains and his experiments seem to bear that out.

Bottom line...marketing ploy! (nuthin wrong with that, but that's what it appears to be)

[Shiloh Sharpie]

Thanks to all for the clarification. 

[Howdy Doody]

Thanks for the input pards, I got a 10 lb case from Powder Inc. I got to try it last weekend. Shot just fine in 45lc cartridges through Kirst converters in ROAs. Cleanup was OK too. I had no fouling problems in 6 stages. I did wipe the crud from around the firing pin on the Kirst with a handi wipe. I had bore butter on the pins, but added nothing else all match. It was fine. Then again so is regular Goex and other than the shine to the grains I see no difference in the powder and the grind looks about the size of Goex Cartridge. Somewhere between FFg and FFFg I suppose. I'll give it some more testing in rifle and shotgun and report back.

[Silver Creek Slim]

I just ordered 5 lbs of Goex Cowboy and 20 lbs of FFg from PowderInc.  I am on my last lb of FFg.

Slim

[Paper Chaser]

Personal experience: shoots great! easy to clean up!  all misses are "operator error". 

[Silver Creek Slim]

Personal experience: shoots great! easy to clean up!  all misses are "operator error". 

I thought it was going to eliminate misses. I want my money back!   

Slim

[Paper Chaser]

Slim and all, the "misses" were NOT, repeat NOT, the fault of the "black stuff"; just wasn't properly pointed by the shooter.
It is pretty darn good stuff.  I may never try any of the substitute stuff.  I'll keep trying, besides as a member of SBSS I must defeat the dreaded stealth bullet.  Right, Slim?

[Silver Creek Slim]

You are absolutely right, Paper Chaser. 

Slim

[Pukin Dog]

This stuff sounds like just the ticket for my 44-40 rounds.  3fg is a bit hot and 2fg is a little slow, maybe this "Cowboy" stuff is just right.

I only shoot 44-40, 45LC and 45-70 so I generally use 2fg.  Wonder if its worth it to mess with 2 different grades of powder.  Might just make reloading more of a hassle.  Got enough hassle making sure I don't load a 45 into the rifle at matches

[Silver Creek Slim]

PD,
Come to Ripon next month and you can try a lb.

Slim

[Cactus Cris]

I used it in my 44/40 loads- 30gr with the Mav 44 boolit.  Loaded every 4th rnd with an extra wax wad (just to be on the safe side) & it did real good.  Tried it in my 60's C&B's and was not impressed enough to stop using the 2f Elephant that I had been using.  If the price stays the same as Schuetzen, will get more.