1858 remingtom , stainless steel

Started by sundance44`s, January 06, 2006, 02:11:15 PM

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sundance44`s

Been thinking of buying one  , would like to any pros and cons on them .. and how does the stainless finish look after alot of use . and i`m not sure who makes them been lookin at one in cabelas .
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I have but one SS Remmie (Euroarms) but have owned 3 others that were Piettas. The Piettas (not the more recent upgraded quality ones) all had problems with chamber/barrel misallignment causing occasional (or in one case, frequent) lockup due to the cylinder camming out of the bolt and freezing the action when fired. My Euroarms is nice & lightweight (finer frame) with much smaller grips than the Piettas. I also have two Millenium finished Uberti '58s that I love.
If I had to do it over again, I would get two Uberti SS Remmies in the 5 1/2" barrels for SASS shoots. For just plain shooting, plinking & matches the 8" barreled models are fine. My milleniums are my "serious match" guns. (see photo to the left) Lately I have found that the 8" barrels are a little long for fast holstering. My holsters are high and I have to raise the guns up higher to reholster but it is not really a big deal. Sheesh, I've put up with it for 13 years of CAS.
To answer your questions:
Cabelas are Piettas. They are too heavy for me but I have weenie forearms. Check out Midway Shooters Supply for Uberti SS Remmies. I think they balance better and feel less "clunky" in my hands. They also make both 8" & 5.5" barreled guns. They are slightly lighter in weight. The SS guns seem a little harder steel than the blued models. That is my impression.
The beauty of SS besides it's rust RESISTANCE (not rust proof, ya still gotta clean 'em) is that if you get a scratch where there is no lettering you can gently polish it out whereas a blued gun is messed up. The drawback is they glare in the bright sun and you will shoot a little lower. However that is similar for the SAA clones whether SS or nickled and a lot of folks like them. A friend of mine has SS Vaqueros but he has had them bead blasted to dull the frames to where it looks almost like a grey Parkerized finish. The Millenium finish on the Ubertis resembles a matte black and is probably what the frame looks like right out of the investment casting without the polishing and a black coating of some kind added.
After a lot of use the SS guns still look great. Some guns are finished to a mirror bright, others to a duller finish. Whether you use a polishing buffer on them or some real fine grit sandpaper will determine the finish (glossy or duller). so, whatever the gun came with, you can usualy restore the finish wherever there is a worn smooth or dulled part.
Feel free to email me directly or just keep on posting. There's a lot of experienced perCUSSIN' shooters willing to help.
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sundance44`s

Thanks for the imput , i`ve never owned any kind of stainless guns at all .. it will be a first ... and i didn`t know i could get one with the 5 and a half inch barrel ... i`ll have to take a look see at that one . the one with case harden frame looks nice to me too ... so its gonna be a hard decision .. plus i have a lot of extra cycs that are blue steel too ... something else to think about .. i`m gonna talk myself right out of the stainless one ain`t i .. lol
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sundance44`s

Hellgate ... thanks fer the tip on midway supply ... those guys have a lot of shootin irons .. and with cabelas raiseing their prices .. its worth a look ..i`ve never seen the silver finish remmie they have .. sharp .. ;D
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News flash, Cabelas is not the only ones who have raised there prices...the are all going up $20.  Was the Euro to the U.S. $ plus fuel cost rising that has inflated Imports $20 . Thought those who didn't know would like to know. So buy as priced while you can.
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sundance44`s

That is good to know ... i do like pettas and i do like cabelas .. they`ve treated me well with all my ordering , maybe they`ll send me another 20 dollars off cupon soon , and i`ll order at least one in stainless .. just gotta try one i`m thinking with the amount of wear i put on one .. it`ll look really good in no time .
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I've got a 58 Uberti "in the white" finish, while it's stainless steel it isn't polished to resemble a nickel plate, more like a satin or bead blasted finish.  I also use a Kirst conversion cylinder that's a blued finish and the contrast is kinda cool!  8)
Last weekend I shot a match with it and my '75 EMF Remington, no malfunctions, misfires, etc. Everyone I've ever gotten advice from concerning both the 58 and 75 designs told me that they wouldn't hold up to the demands of CAS, but so far after 6 months and some 300+ rounds, my back-up Rugers haven't seen the light of day.
The nice part of getting a 58 in the white is the fixed sights, period correct and all, while the shiny stainless models I've seen always have adjustable sights.
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hellgate

SFT,
The only area where I could imagine they might not hold up is in the fouling department. My Ubertis will foul after  one stage using max loads. A single drop of oil frees them up for another go 'round so it's not a problem. I have an Euroarms Remmie that will shoot all day without the oil and is fine. Some folks have Remmies with tight cylinder gaps and they gum up pretty quickly and therefore some folks think they "won't hold up to CAS matches". Baloney. Just keep 'em lubed with a little squeeze bottle of oil. I use lube wads + over ball grease+ theoil drop and can go indefinately.
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