Hodgdon closes Goex plant

[greenjoytj]

Hodgdon closes GOEX plant.

http://namlhunt.com/goex-to-close.html?fbclid=IwAR09kWgfPwV0ocmwD4etzphggnwJ0ib43LSuUeO-PtxGQCFs9YJH8irQZXY

[Holsterguy]

Yeah, heard the news last night. Really sucks.
Always shyed away from black cause of how bad it fowled, then found Olde Eynsford. Thats about all I shoot any more. Love it.

[Coffinmaker]

  Well, Atz certainly wonderful good news idnnit   

Play Safe Out There

[Buffalo Creek Law Dog]

Wel that sucks

[Dave T]

Hodgdon to US muzzle loaders and BPC shooters:  Thanks for all your money over the years.  Too bad about your hobby and sport, now go "F" yourself.

I'm really angry abut this.  I had intended spending the last years of my life shooting BPC guns, with black powder.  Guess I'll start selling it all off once I shoot up what powder I have I have.

Dave

[Drydock]

Still Swiss and Shuetzen powder out there.  I was all in on OE, guess I'll transition to Swiss.  It's plenty good.  Grafs has Swiss 1.5f in stock.

Hodgdon is run by bean counters now that the old man is gone.  They probably think we'll all go to Pyrodex.  Blecchhh!

[Abilene]

Just gotta hope somebody buys it and keeps it going.  Hmm, wonder how many retired cowboys it would take to pool their resources? 

[ira scott]

Certainly is not going to help the supply and demand (price) situation of Black Powder,  DAMMIT!  Ya just gotta love $50 for 10 oz. of BH209. (which I've gathered is not actually a B.P. substitute but an inline muzzleloader propellant)

B.N. Scotty

[Froogal]

Smokeless powder is already difficult (impossible) to find, so I stocked up on Goex and OE and have been experimenting trying to get it right, but now they've taken black powder away from us also. Extremely depressing is the only way to describe it, and a bit scary at the same time.

[DeaconKC]

I expect another manufacturer to buy it from Hodgdon. And yes it certainly is a slap in the face to their loyal customers.

[Cliff Fendley]

I expect another manufacturer to buy it from Hodgdon. And yes it certainly is a slap in the face to their loyal customers.

I hope you're right but who? Hodgdon is the one buying everyone else and distributing all the powder. If they couldn't make it profitable I'm reluctant to think anyone else will be able to.

[Cliff Fendley]

Actually if I could boycott Hodgdon I would but they seem to have their hands in all the powder.

[greenjoytj]

Maybe Hodgdon's couldn't find any company to insure the BP factory after the fire in that factory.
Hodgdon is probably unwilling to underwrite the insurance with their own money.
Or it a threat ploy to shake the Gov. Money tree for plant upgrades or expansion.

[Major 2]

It is more likely, the bottom line.... profit

Pyrodex & Blackhorn 209 are Hodgdon products, , they buy Goex and shut it down ,,,, seems the corporate's way, eliminate a real
BP source , and all that is left is your substitute product ....

Another nail in the shooting sport coffin ....

Hopefully Swiss and Shuetzen powders will continue, less the current yahoo piano player in DC  ban the import of BP.

[Dave T]

I think our own Major 2 has struck the nail upon the flat part.

Hodgdon is forcing the black powder community to buy their easier and safer to produce substitutes which lowers their liability and cost.  Smart of the MBA bean counters, and what do they care about history or the shooting sports.  With Hodgdon's money they can just buy something that is profitable. 

I am having a great deal of trouble with what our country has turned into.  Probably best I am old and won't be around too much longer.  I feel very sorry for the children and younger people out there.  The world they are inheriting is not going to be a pleasant one.


I'll shut up now,
Dave

[River City John]

Dave T, you may have uncovered another truth.

"I feel very sorry for the children younger people out there.  The world they are inheriting is not going to be a pleasant one."
As far as shooting sports in general and black powder use specifically, the youth have been abandoning this sport. Just not enough new converts embracing it.

[Blackpowder Burn]

The BP manufacturing process inherently tends to Rapid Unscheduled Disassemblies" in parts of the process - which is why those areas operate autonomously.  Even the original DuPont plant (circa 1802?) did that (operated unattended, that it) - neat historical exhibit if you get a chance to see it. When it had a RUD it blew out a specifically designed wooden part of the structure into the Brandywine river, they rebuilt it, and got on with business. 

I suspect this is in large part due to corporate "safety experts" soiling their knickers when it occasionally happens - then yammering until the corporate bean counters agree to shut it down.  I've seen too many similar things in my career in the petrochemical industry...........safety experts and bean counters running businesses that they have no understanding of or experience with.

Perhaps the group that owns Swiss, or some American group with a few cajones will buy it........