Shaved .455 Webley MK VI

Started by Whiskey Double, January 28, 2020, 06:47:24 PM

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Baltimore Ed

The shorter your case the more bullet jump you have to deal with in revolvers which usually is a bad thing but if your accuracy isn't affected that's great. The .45 acp as a target loading is one of the most accurate cartridges out there. The .45 cowboy special should also be accurate. Shot all Schofield loads in my '73/'76 winchester carbine, ASM Schofield revolver and 1860 conversion yesterday, 200gr RNFP in the rifle and 160 gr SWC in both revolvers. Clean for the first 3 stages but bad storms unfortunately ended the shoot. It did slack off enough to let us put our targets and gear away without anyone drowning.
"Give'em hell, Pike"
There is no horse so dead that you cannot continue to beat it.

Major 2

Quote from: Major 2 on September 14, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
That is very nice unaltered Webley.... I'm guessing it will bring well into  4 figures ...I'm watching  ;)

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878725781

Final drop of the gavel  $2,126.00 
when planets align...do the deal !

Major 2

Quote from: Drydock on September 14, 2020, 04:55:47 PM
Here's a shaved MK 1 that the seller has no clue.  https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879016748   I sent  him a note, bet I get a self righteous denial.  But it's easy to see in the  photo's, might scare off a lot of buyers.

The one above sold for $1380

this re-blued one had sold @ $916.... https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878884187

but now  https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/879973026    the buyer must have not followed through it has been relisted. 
when planets align...do the deal !

Drydock

Curious: why do you think it's been refinished?
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Major 2

the bluing is in all the stamped marks  nor does there appear to be any raised metal ...

Just an observation  :-\ I could be wrong
when planets align...do the deal !

Drydock

OK, but no, that's the way the W&S finished them,  especially the pre ww1 .455s.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Major 2

when planets align...do the deal !

Baltimore Ed

Theres been some kind of refinishing at least on the cylinder because the rear of the cylinder would be bright naked steel after machining it off. The rest of the gun looks original to me.
"Give'em hell, Pike"
There is no horse so dead that you cannot continue to beat it.

Major 2

when planets align...do the deal !

Major 2

Just place another order for 45 Auto Rim ....Graf's is now out
when planets align...do the deal !

Dusty Tagalon

Turns out I have 3x Shaved cylinders, a Mk5 & 2x New Service. May try 1 of the New Service weekend.
Brian

Major 2

Update on my Webley adventure  :)

It took 12 days for Graf's to get the 45 AR Starline brass shipped   ::),  and 4 days to arrive after that  , but it did arrive.
( just an observation , not really a complaint , but that said additional brass is in route from Buffalo Arms and will arrive within the first week )

In the mean time my Chronograph arrived and I set about to work up my load...

I have also purchased Bear Creek Supply   .454  260 grain hollow base Webley bullets (see photos) BTW 2 days shipping  ;D

I'm impressed with the consistency and quality of Bear Creek's product  ( moly coated bullets )

They are  .80 thou shorter than Springfield Slim cast bullets , set at the same depth it makes the OAL of the final bullet .80 shorter
than the SS bullet when it is crimped at original .455 cartridge OAL

Note: the point of crimp <---- in 3rd & 4th. photos  However the shape is blunter

Powder is the same weight of Trail Boss

Slims bullets chronograph average -  662 FPS
The Bear Creek - 626 FPS      ( which I allude to the slicker moly coat )


Springfield Slim also ships fast ...2 days ( I also like the historic shape of his bullets )
FYI  SS bullets are  .452  @  262 grains  ( recovered bullets show they bump to .454 and engage rifling nicely )

* all shots at 7 yards with the chrono at  10ft out from the muzzle
when planets align...do the deal !

Dusty Tagalon

I have been experimenting with shaved cylinders. My Mk5 with 45 Cowboy Special, OK. My Colt New Service, failed. 1st Stage with 45 Cowboy Special BP failed, primer blowout/lockup. Stage 2, shift to autorim smokeless, squib, even after driving bullet back into cylinder, primer blowout signafant enough, gun is no longer functional! 
Brian

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