Fruits of ya'lls bad influence - Webley Mark IV .38 in the house

[DeaconKC]

  I have never seen a T grip on a Webley before!

[RattlesnakeJack]

"T grip" ... ?

[RattlesnakeJack]

My Webley "WG Target" revolver -

[Baltimore Ed]

Very nice revolver there Rattlesnake.

[RattlesnakeJack]

Very nice revolver there Rattlesnake.

Thanks ... despite the finish being somewhat mottled, it is the nicest handling of any handgun I have ever used: in double-action mode, as the trigger pull brings the hammer to full cock there is a very noticeable "rest", after which the gentlest of further pressure on the trigger drops the hammer.

As a result, I'd say it is the most accurate handgun I have ever fired ...  When I first got it, a small broken internal spring resulted in the cylinder not consistently indexing, necessitating "manual indexing" for every shot, so I did very little shooting with it.  Once that problem was fixed, I took it to the range to see how it would now perform. I only had thirty rounds with me, but when I saw how accurate it it seemed to be shooting (offhand, one-handed hold) I patched the sole paper target I had brought along and then fired the last fifteen rounds from a seated position with a double-handed hold, heels of my hands resting on the counter of the shooting shed, using my usual six-o'clock hold on the bull.  This is those fifteen rounds ...  range was twenty-five yards -

[Bat 2919]

"T grip" ... ?

Tyler T Grip adapters.  Fills the area behind the trigger guard so your hand has a better hold for target shooting.  Very popular in the U S for target shooing up to the 70's when people just stopped using them.  looks like some one is still making / selling them.

http://www.t-grips.com/

Grips (factory and after market) were made to fill this void about then.  I still have rubber grips on my J Frame Smith that fill this area.  Set's my grip up so I naturally bring the gun up with the sights aligned.

[RattlesnakeJack]

Thanks, Bat ... wasn't familiar with the term ...

[Baltimore Ed]

Also keeps my arthritic knuckle from getting rapped by the trigger guard.

[Whiskey Double]

I'm getting confused here gentleman. I'm looking at a Mark IV in .38 , can it be used or not ?.

[Drydock]

Yes, it can be used in place of a target gripped MK III in an appropriate portrayal.  This would be after 1896, probably as civilian of the Empire, as I believe an officers weapon would have to be of the issue caliber, IE .455.  I suppose an enlisted infantryman might have one in his kit, much like US troops overseas often carried small revolvers as last ditch weapons.  Though perhaps her Majesty's army frowned upon such things?  Jack?

I could see US troops possibly acquiring these, as the various Webleys and other small British revolvers were quite popular in the States,  and of course the .38 S&W was a very popular round on this side of the Atlantic.   The Webley would be on the expensive end of the scale, far outnumbered by the various "Bulldogs" and US made 5 shooters.

Though anyone using one had better have quite a good backstory as to how he got it and why.

[RattlesnakeJack]

Contrary to Drydock's view (which presumably governs) I am personally of the view that the .38 Mark IV is not suficiently like the Mark III to permit its use in GAF events ...

As for British Empire Other Ranks (enlisted personnel) carrying revolvers as last ditch weapons ... very uncommon, I understand.

[Drydock]

I very much respect your view, and will give it more thought.  Please stand by to stand by.  I would also say a MK IV is worth having for it's own sake.  And it is a dandy Zoot gun, and will make minor at a USPSA revolver match with the .380/200 loads.

[Niederlander]

STANDING BY TO STAND BY!!  (One of our favorite sayings from The Basic School...?.)

[Drydock]

As my wife likes to say "Where does that come from?"  Well, ya see darling . . .

[Whiskey Double]

Thank God mine doesn't know or care " where that came from"

[Drydock]

Upon further review, the MK IV in it's standard configuration cannot be used as a GAF sidearm.  However, any small bore Webley top break having a compact (What I would consider a "2 Finger") grip FRAME, can be used.

[cpt dan blodgett]

bummer but given the rather large amt of Kentucky Windage required for 147 Grain factory loads, I am not really terribly distraught at the thought I cannot shoot it in a GAF Event when once considers the targets have spoken and told me I cant shoot it period.