Municion L.M.P 1889

Started by Drydock, April 02, 2019, 08:07:45 PM

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Drydock

Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

This is even better than "steam punk"! With a bit of careful
academic research, I'm sure the timeline on this technology can be pushed back considerably.
NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Pitspitr

Quote from: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on April 03, 2019, 11:09:32 AM
With a bit of careful academic research, I'm sure the timeline on this technology can be pushed back considerably.
Yes, I seems to bear quite a resemblance to the modern shotput or hammer used by Leonidas' legions at Thermopylae.
I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
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Silver Creek Slim

Can we use these in the musters?

Slim
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I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

Pitspitr

Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on April 04, 2019, 09:23:59 AM
Can we use these in the musters?

Slim
Hmmmm .... Let's see, what's the word I'm looking for? Chuck?
I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
NRA CRSO, RVWA IIT2; SASS ROI, ROII;
NRA Benefactor Life; AZSA Life; NCOWS Life

Drydock

Oh, I don't know.  It is period correct, maybe stash a few down range for anyone who runs out of ammunition.  I'll have to see if we need any mass/velocity restrictions to prevent target damage. 

Should those concerns be addressed, I would say that only the brass handled M1889 is allowed in the Victorian match, along with the earlier handle-less M1873.  The M1889/16 bakelite handle is permitted for EEM.  1889/16/18 Wood handles, German adaptations and any postwar version is not allowed at all I'm afraid,  along with the Russian model, though I'm sure few if any of those have been imported.  It must be understood that the supporting Trebuchet equipage for the earliest models cannot be allowed, in order to alleviate any transport concerns of the membership.

I have seen photo's indicating Italian usage along the front with Austria-Hungary,  but we have no documentation of domestic production.  Moreover none seem to have handles of any sort, thus are most likely are imports from France of the earlier M1873s, or perhaps they were selling off some of the undocumented ad-hoc production from the Franco-Prussian Siege of Paris.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Drydock

I would also add that 2021 will indeed be the 150th anniversary of the Siege of Paris,  thus the use of the earlier models (thankfully the easiest to duplicate) might be looked into.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

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