Wild Bill Hickok holster

[olered]

I am looking for a carving pattern for a California style slim jim holster. There is a holster on westernleatherholster.com that I am fond of. I am interested in doing a pair of holsters with that carving. It looks pretty simple to do. I envision Wild Bill sitting in the saloon btween card games doing this himself with a knife.. Does anyone know where I could get a pattern as I am not good at drawing my own out.
Thanks in advance.

[ChuckBurrows]

With all due respect Wild Bill, as a professional and experienced gunsel, bought his holsters already decorated from professional makers of the period - FWIWthat's based on those pieces still extant that he owned. Also as a professional gambler I very much doubt Duck Nose would take his mind off the game, even in between games - it was serious business for him and others of his ilk.

You can find examples of his known holsters online at the Gene Autry Museum site as well as others-  as for simple carving patterns made with a cutting tool only explore here for some of the fine makers who have copied such original pieces or in books such as Packing Iron, a must have for any student of gun leather.. Also check out WIll Ghormley's Slim Jim patterns which include carving patterns.

[Skeeter Lewis]

Go to the page below for some very helpful closeups of a purported Hickok holster from the Autry Museum.
Scroll down.
http://collections.theautry.org/mwebcgi/mweb.exe?request=record;id=M503102;type=101

[MJN77]

With all due respect Wild Bill, as a professional and experienced gunsel,

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gunsel       

[ChuckBurrows]

gun·sel  /ˈgənsəl/
noun
USinformal

noun: gunsel; plural noun: gunsels
a criminal carrying a gun.


https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGNI_enUS476US476&q=gunsel

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I think the older definition was correct in "our period".

The morphing of the definition into a little criminal carrying a gun seems to be a later misinterpretation of Dashiell Hammett's use of the word.

[MJN77]

From the link I posted.

The secondary, non-sexual meaning "young hoodlum" seems to be entirely traceable to Dashiell Hammett, who sneaked it into "The Maltese Falcon" (1929) while warring with his editor over the book's racy language.

    "Another thing," Spade repeated, glaring at the boy: "Keep that gunsel away from me while you're making up your mind. I'll kill him."

The context implies some connection with gun and a sense of "gunman," and evidently the editor bought it. The word was retained in the script of the 1941 movie made from the book, so evidently the Motion Picture Production Code censors didn't know it either.

The relationship between Kasper Gutman (Sidney Greenstreet) and his young hit-man companion, Wilmer Cook (Elisha Cook, Jr.), is made fairly clear in the movie, but the overt mention of sexual perversion would have been deleted if the censors hadn't made the same mistaken assumption as Hammett's editor.

[ChuckBurrows]

No matter it's origins or supposed origins (the Yiddish/German origin simply meant gosling and had no other connotation, until it became a slang term for catamite amongst hobos and other low lifes), word meanings change (or like fag it means different things in different places such as England where it simply denotes a cigarette), gunsel became a synonym for a gunman and is seldom if ever used otherwise in common speech, at least amongst the folks I know...

[Curley Cole]

http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-Gq4dk6T/0/M/dblreddog1-M.jpg

Here is a rig I had Paul of RedDog do for me. It is kind of styled after WB rig. I always give Paul free reign in tooling and he patterned this after a holster on inside cover of packin iron

I had him do double crossdraw and I got a left hand strong side in case I wantedto change up.

lordy I wish I could syill work leather. I love to look at yer stuff.

curley