shotshells for 56-50?

Started by Dakota Widowmaker, October 24, 2005, 10:15:44 AM

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Dakota Widowmaker

I know you can load shotshells in the 44russian...just use the blue capsules from CCI.

But, would it be possible to make shotshells for the 56-50?

Tuolumne Lawman

I have original 56-50 Spencer shot shell (they work in 56-56 also).  They had elongated copper cases like a 5 in 1 on steroids. I have fed it through the action of my Taylors.  While I have not disected it (it was $35! for the one) it is probably about like a light .410 load.

I will have to give this some thought.  It should not be too hard to come up with a way to do one for single shot, but getting one that would feed through the magazine, that would be a challenge! <g>
TUOLUMNE LAWMAN
CO. F, 12th Illinois Cavalry  SASS # 6127 Life * Spencer Shooting Society #43 * Motherlode Shootist Society #1 * River City Regulators

Hell-Er High Water

TL,

Being that the Taylor's 56-50 will digest cases made from 348 Winchester brass, perhaps a shotshell made from this case is a possibility.  I may experiment by trimming a case (length to be determined) and blowing it out straight in one of my 50-70's.  Then necking it down in perhaps a 45-70 FL die and will work.  If it is necked even further then a 44 caliber shot capsul may be the way to go.  Whatever ends up working, it is going to be a close range round.

Hell-Er High Water

Tuolumne Lawman

Howdy to the camp,

Well I built a prototype shot shell, though it is a lot of work for one shell.  It chambers but does not feed (a little too long).  I have not fired it to see pattern yet.

I used a Starline 56-50 case.  Thinking a 56-50 shot shell would be close to a .410, I took a 2 1/2" 410 shell, took the powder, and put it in the 56-50 case.  I placed a cardboard wad over the powder.  For the shot capsule, I used the plastic case that a 3cc syringe comes in.  We have a breeding kennel, and buy shots and vacine by the case.  The end where the needle cover projects is just under .5" and it tapers open towards the plunger end.  I cut the needle end flush (there was a protruding collar with a hole in it) and cut it to about 3/4" long.  I seated and crimped this in the case sitting on the powder wad.  I then took the 1/2 oz of #6 shot from the 410, and poured it in the open end of the capsule.  I placed one of the paper wads from the 410 on top of the shot, and sealed it with a drop of gorilla glue.

It looks good, and should work, but it is just a little too long to cycle.  SIngle loaded, however, it would be a close range 410!

Personally, as I said, it was a lot of work.  I think the 348 Winchester brass may be the answer.
TUOLUMNE LAWMAN
CO. F, 12th Illinois Cavalry  SASS # 6127 Life * Spencer Shooting Society #43 * Motherlode Shootist Society #1 * River City Regulators

Dakota Widowmaker

I wonder if it couldn't be made using those CCI capsules for 44mag/spl, but, "paper patch" them to size upto a .512" or there abouts.

Might have to try it once I get everything together...but, if I can't get to the outdoor range soon enough with my new toys on the way, it may have to wait till next spring.

Tuolumne Lawman

They have .452 capsules too.  You could use masking tape tp "paper patch."  I have some 45 colt snake shot.  Maybe I can get one apart without destroying the capsule.
TUOLUMNE LAWMAN
CO. F, 12th Illinois Cavalry  SASS # 6127 Life * Spencer Shooting Society #43 * Motherlode Shootist Society #1 * River City Regulators

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