Richards Type I Conversion 44 Colt

Started by reno, March 14, 2014, 12:31:58 PM

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reno

Has anyone asked any dealers like Cimarron or Uberti why they are not having Type I Conversions made if everyone seems to want one. I have a Type I in 38spl. made by Kenney serial #006.
very early gun and very smooth action. Wish I could get one for the price I paid for this one.
reno

Graveyard Jack

I'd much rather get in line for a new Uberti than take a chance on an ASM.
SASS #81,827

Fox Creek Kid

IMO, they probably won't because CAS demand is mainly for basic "race" type guns and not obscure traditional stuff that we like. Sad fact.  :'(


Gus Walker

 ;D  I know i wouldnt give up my ASM 38 for nothin. Mine must be an anomoly Nothing wrong and great workmanship.
Aye its been quite a ride aint it?

Major 2

Quote from: Gus Walker on March 15, 2014, 08:51:41 AM
;D  I know i wouldnt give up my ASM 38 for nothin. Mine must be an anomoly Nothing wrong and great workmanship.

There were many the were quite good, see Dave Anderson's work

and there were some, that were not so good read  Traditions and Sportman's Warehouse.
when planets align...do the deal !

reno

I know some were very good. I just sold one in 38spl. new unfired in the box this week for $440.00 off Gunbrokers, if it would have been a 44 Colt I would still have it.
Thanks to all for the replys,
reno

Seth Hawkins

It's not a gun that's easy to mass produce.  I think we got lucky when they made the Type II.

My thinking on this is supported by the fact that these older Traditions & ASM "Type I's" aren't really Type I's.  And the true Type I's you get from a boutique shop like Howell or Millington, and now Raven are expensive and take time to make.

rifle

I don't thunk a Type One Richards would be that much more difficult to mass produce than the Type Two. They might feel like what they have to offer now is good enough and people should feel lucky to get that.

I'd say they want to have more parts interchangable  to other guns for profits sake. You know like......the Transitional Richards is just the Richards Mason with a different barrel.  One part extra to make...the barrel.....not counting the extractor.

The Type One would need a new backplate with the firing pin in it and the plate over lap the cylinder some and a sight on it.....different hammer......different extracor and housing mounted more difficultly in making the plug mount where the plunger used to be.

I think a person could take the Richards Transition model and convert it to a Richards Type One conversion easier than making a whole new Richards from scratch using a cap&baller to begin.

A fit sleeve on the backplate to over lap the cylinder with a coupla tack welds to hold it on and a site welded on top and a firing pin assembly made with a modified hammer then an extractor set up from Kirst and BINGO...... Richards Type One Colt.

It would be a little difficult to mill the barrel to take the Richards type extractor housing mount.

I'd just use the one that came on the Richards Transition with it's barrel and maybe shorten the housing to not be atop the wedge slot.

Seth Hawkins

Quote from: rifle on March 16, 2014, 10:28:22 AM
I don't thunk a Type One Richards would be that much more difficult to mass produce than the Type Two. They might feel like what they have to offer now is good enough and people should feel lucky to get that.

I'd say they want to have more parts interchangable  to other guns for profits sake. You know like......the Transitional Richards is just the Richards Mason with a different barrel.  One part extra to make...the barrel.....not counting the extractor.

The Type One would need a new backplate with the firing pin in it and the plate over lap the cylinder some and a sight on it.....different hammer......different extracor and housing mounted more difficultly in making the plug mount where the plunger used to be.

I think a person could take the Richards Transition model and convert it to a Richards Type One conversion easier than making a whole new Richards from scratch using a cap&baller to begin.

A fit sleeve on the backplate to over lap the cylinder with a coupla tack welds to hold it on and a site welded on top and a firing pin assembly made with a modified hammer then an extractor set up from Kirst and BINGO...... Richards Type One Colt.

It would be a little difficult to mill the barrel to take the Richards type extractor housing mount.

I'd just use the one that came on the Richards Transition with it's barrel and maybe shorten the housing to not be atop the wedge slot.

I think you made my point for me.

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