Confederate Cavalry Spur Strap Placement

Started by WaddWatsonEllis, October 03, 2013, 09:47:07 AM

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WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

I finally got a set of Cavalry boots and Confederate Enlisted spurs ... am going to make my own spur straps.

Was there a regulation or some such that told where the buckle for the spur straps would be placed ... or was it any trooper's preference?

I am trying to make up an 1862-ish uniform that my great-grandfather wore with the 2nd Fla Mounted (Cavalry) ...

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Major 2

Regulation ? I don't recall Spur strap placement.

I can tell you , the best place is to the outside just about centered between the center line of you arch and the sole
with the billet trailing down.

In all the Steffen Prints where Spurs are seen, that is the placement...

I wore them over 30 years,  a buckel centered on you arch HURT !  you'd quickly adjust it.

So outsude left on the left boot and Vice Versa on the outside right...

Also Troopers wore the spurs about 1 inch above the heel not on the heel.

However, there was a Cavalry spur design with no strap, it was retained by a sping box Morticed into the heel and an Iron tennon
case into the spur bow.  
when planets align...do the deal !

WaddWatsonEllis

Here are the spurs that I got:

http://www.regtqm.com/Spurs-Brass-p/footwear-4.htm

Does anyone know the standard width, length and thickness of the leather in the straps?

(That would make making a pair SO much easier!)

Here are the Cavalry boots I got:

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

River City John

I'm gonna guess measure the slot in the spur you'll be feeding them through, that'll give you the width.

I'd make a mock-up of strip cardboard to see what length is going to work best, then give yourself an extra inch or so and cut the shaped tip after putting them on the boot for proper length.

I have a pair of used straps I use to secure a blanket roll. If you could use 'em I'd gladly donate them.



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when planets align...do the deal !

WaddWatsonEllis

HI,

I am going to Petaluma to visit a hide store ... if I can find a small piece that is long enough, I have all the tools to make my spur straps.

I even have a decent supply of copper rivets that are just the right size ... alll I need is a pair of buckles, and I think that Tandy can supply me a set ...
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

St. George

The same outfit you bought the spurs from sells the straps.

Use them.

The Tandy buckles won't be remotely close.

Scouts Out!
"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

WaddWatsonEllis

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

WaddWatsonEllis

St Charles,

I reread my post and it read irreverently ... which was not my intent.

I simply did not know whether the buckles I was looking at were different than the issue ones ... they do look similar in the pics ... and it is a matter of 1.20 for both buckles vs $ 11.95 (plus shipping at about $7.00) ... I am confused ...

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

St. George

Not at all.

Look at military straps - on the spur straps, they're a cross between a true roller buckle and a plain frame buckle.

The one pictured is a fake roller buckle.

Scouts Out!
"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

WaddWatsonEllis

Okay,

Now that I understand the difference, a 'real' set of spur straps will make the 100% shipping costs worthwhile ... I will order them!

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

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