Uberti backlogged guns Schofield. and a question about conversions

[X9ballX]

Boy its been a long time.

Anyways About a month ago I traded my judge and a few hundred dollars for a Uberti schofield.

Well for my dealer to order one for me. Thing is he ordered a 7 inch one months ago and still hasnt got it in.

So here I am wondering how long its gonna take. From what i have been told they put allot more effort in making a quality schofield than they do their other guns. So i'm hoping this is a good one grand spent.

As for conversions is is safe to shoot jacketed ammo in a conversion cylinder for a 1858? like hornaday critical defense.

Don't own one yet but was thinking about picking one up

[Pettifogger]

I have had some Uberti parts on order for over two years.  They make a lot of these limited production guns in batches and sometimes it is a LONG time before they run off another batch.

[X9ballX]

......I would like to say some bad words....

But i think it would be polite to refrain.

I think i'll buy a 1911 in the meantime

[Abominable Bill]

From my understanding all production stops for about 6 weeks during the summer over there.
When I got my Russians in October, Cimarron got a batch in that had been pending for months.
I originally had Taylors New Model Frontiers (Beretta Laramies) on wait for almost a year. Taylors explained that those are rarely made, even less than the Schofields or Russians.
The sold me a pair of Russians.
I had the opportunity to buy a pair of cancelled Schofields from Cimarron; but had already bought the Russians.
They are worth the wait.
I've owned a number of Uberti and Beretta guns and feel that the work they put into the guns I own is top notch.
Keep an eye out on Gunbroker or Gunsamerica. They can be found there.

[wildman1]

AB do ya got any snow up there yet? WM

[MJN77]

FWIW, Dixie gun works has the 7 inch barrel schofield in .45 in stock right now for $920.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_185&products_id=2562

[Abominable Bill]

If you want a 45 in with a short pipe:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=317344679
Or perhaps a 44-40
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=320733235
and in 45 with a long tube
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=320567000
or maybe a Rusian...
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=320658470

The deal with conversion cylinders is to keep the loads low. Manufacturers state low velocity cowboy loads only in those.
The bullet wont matter with them; but the charge behind it does. It's the barrel of what your putting the conversion cylinder into that matters as far as the bullet goes.
Jacketed HP's out of a 1858? hmmm... not the defense weapon of choice in todays day; but I suppose... If you already have a Cabela's special and are looking to be able to do more with it.

[45Russian]

+1 on recommending auction sites, thats the only way I have been able to find ubertis I want lately. You can also try dixie gun works or contact stoeger/uberti directly.

[St. George]

As to jacketed projectiles...

The clone you want to shoot jacketed ammunition from started life as a percussion revolver.

Already built of a softer metallurgy, it's likely that you'd cause undue wear using a steady diet of jacketed projectiles, so stick with lead, and you should be just fine.

Scouts Out!

[Flint]

Jacketed bullets are not recommended.  Pietta barrel steel is softer than Uberti, but neither is the grade steel they use for cartridge guns.  The Remington barrel at the forcing cone is fairly thin, as the threaded portion is a smaller diameter than later cartridge revolvers like the 1875 or a Colt SAA., and it is unsupported where the frame cutout loops around it.  You risk cracking the barrel at the cylinder gap with heavier loads and jacket bullets.

I use lead only and shoot "Cowboy CAS" level loads.  I also recut the forcing cone to 11 degrees to ease the passage, as the Pietta guns I have had very little forcing cone to begin with, which wasn't a particular problem with soft lead roundballs, but the 45Colt cartridge bullets are harder and heavier.  I recut the Uberti forcing cones as well, though better than the Pietta, they were too steep for my liking.

[Virginia Gentleman]

If the steel is so soft what is it made of 4130 or 4140 steel?    These are common gunmaking modern steels that Ubertis are made of and are hard enough for jacketed bullets.  The rifling on the other hand is cut for lead bullets.

[Doug.38PR]

9ball, did you ever get your gun?

I sent my Schofield in for repair about 5 months ago, they determined it had a flaw and were going to replace it, BUT I was told that it would 5 or 6 months as they didn't have anymore available and wouldn't be producing them for another 6 months.  Well, I got mine about two months ago in early January.    Brand new gun.  Looks nice.  How about yours?  Has it come?

[Flint]

Uberti and Pietta make cartridge guns with 4140, but not the cap & ball guns.

[Old No7]

FYI, Kittery Trading Post in Kittery, Maine (1 hour north of Boston) has several NEW Uberti Schofields in stock.

Am sure they would ship to your FFL if they had the one you wanted.

Tight groups!

Old No7

[Mean Bob Mean]

You do not want or need a jacketed bullet.  At the low velocities realized in open tops, a flat point accurately placed will do or, as I am doing, you can load soft cast hollow points.  These (in a .44) mushroom to about .72 and retain much weight, penetrating about 12 inches.  I have found soft lead HPs for .44 and .38.  Let me know if need a line on same (posted some in powder room yesterday).

[Slowhand Bob]

Not sure how this might apply to you but often times a dealer will nly want to order through his own network.  They often have special discouts through a dedicated supplier, at least that is what I have run into in the past.  One dealer wanted a substantial mark-up to order through a source different from his own and this was all while he had my money in his pocket and I had nothing but time on my hands!

[Graveyard Jack]

Don't know if this will help anyone or not but Dixie Gun Works has every barrel length and chambering in stock. They came in late last week, I believe. Sorry but a few will already have my fingerprints on them. Brought home a 7" .45Colt yesterday. 

Unfortunately, no Russians.