3-f shutzen or goex load for 44-40 ?

[Marshal Deadwood]

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[w44wcf]

Marshall,
35 grs by weight of either will do about 1,250 f.p.s.

w44wcf

[Ranch 13]

If you're shopping for a powder , I'ld suggest you try a can of Olde Eysnford 2f, or some 3f, but the 3f maybe a wee bit hot for most cartridge guns. Friend of mine ran 35 grs with a 230 gr bullet in a 45 colt and came out with over 1000 fps from a 7.5 inch barrel.
I ran 35 grs of the 2f in my 38-40 and came up with 960 fps from a 4.5 inch barrel.
Stuff cleans up really nice and you can run over a box and not have the gun even bind up.

[Fingers McGee]

If you're shopping for a powder , I'ld suggest you try a can of Olde Eysnford 2f, or some 3f, but the 3f maybe a wee bit hot for most cartridge guns. Friend of mine ran 35 grs with a 230 gr bullet in a 45 colt and came out with over 1000 fps from a 7.5 inch barrel.
I ran 35 grs of the 2f in my 38-40 and came up with 960 fps from a 4.5 inch barrel.
Stuff cleans up really nice and you can run over a box and not have the gun even bind up.

veddy interesting.  Guess I'm gonna hafta try some of it in my '66 carbine.  Any data on how it acts in a .36 C&B?

[Ranch 13]

No haven't heard anybody using it in capnball yet, but some of the guys on the muzzleloading forums are saying they're having to drop powder charges to keep the velocity and point of impact the same.

[Fingers McGee]

When I pick some up, I guess I'll have to do a little chronographing and accuracy testing then.

[Ranch 13]

Yes by volume it's lighter than regular Goex. But what ever sort of pixiedust they're putting in the stuff sure gives it plenty of zip. Some folks that shoot Swiss are getting by pretty good just leaving the measure set and going right with the Olde E, and report being really happy about the fouling.

[Blackpowder Burn]

I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but have loaded some 38-55 and 45-70 ammo with 1-1/2Fg, FFg, FFFg Olde E.  I compared the weight with the same granulation of Swiss, and found the Olde E to weigh about 5% less for the same volume.  This would seem to indicate that Goex is using a less dense wood for the charcoal?  If so, that should lead to better incorporation of the charcoal, sulfur and potassium nitrate, making a more powerful powder. 

I'm very anxious to get to the range and chronograph it.  I'll also try regular Goex, Swiss and Olde E in my Old Army's.  Should make an interesting day at the range.

[Marshal Deadwood]

Thanks guys. THat'll give me a good starting point for the 44WCF. Then I'll tweet my variables for accuracy on individual gun.

Mike

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

It is really very simple.

Measure how far your prospective bullet will protrude into the case mouth when fully seated. Make a line at that point. Then pour in enough powder so that the powder will be compressed between 1/16" to 1/8" when the bullet is seated. Pour the powder out and either rig up a volume measure to pour it every time, or weigh it, whichever you choose. That's all there is to it.

For what it's worth, for 44-40 I always load the Mav-Dutchman 200 grain Big Lube bullet. I use 2.2CC of either Goex FFg or Schuetzen FFg. I prefer Schuetzen because it burns a little bit cleaner. I have my Lyman adjustable BP measure set to deliver that much. I never bother to weigh it.