Conversion project, opinions PLEASE.

Slowhand Bob · December 07, 2012, 09:26:14 AM

Guys I will be sending a pair of my favorite Pieatts off for Kirst Conversion work pretty soon and have run into a question. First off the guns are the engraved Pietta '51 Sheriffs Models in .44cal, these are the ones that look like stainless. My original plan was to have the Kirst parts polished to white, in an attempt to match the guns. The gunsmith and I agreed that the mix of blue on a gun that already had shiny white and brass parts might look a bit funky. After talking with a dew others I am being told that the different make-up in the steel will cause the parts to discolor/rust differently and look worse than just leaving the parts blue? What you guys thoughts on this? There is one other possibility I could try in order to help that third color situation a bit, get the brass parts plated? There is surely a way to get a close match to the shiny steal? Keep in mind that unlike some of the Conversions I see this one must be kept within a budget limit but I am thinking of doing it in stages with the basic conversion first. I need to get to the gunsmith soon on this as I will be heading south for the holidays, so help with some opinions please. Dawnt be shy, help.

Billy Bristol · December 07, 2012, 09:41:44 AM

Brass plate the cylinders?

Slowhand Bob · December 14, 2012, 08:12:46 AM

The guns were shipped several days ago, I decided to just put off anything to do with the finish and go with blue conversions on the shiny guns. I will not get them back until after the holiday season but will post pictures and report when I can. I did not include the extractors but will probably add them on later, as funds become available! $:-\$

Coffinmaker · December 15, 2012, 08:41:51 PM

Well, since you shipped 'em away anyway, one answer you received was horsefeathers. Once you apply a fine machine polish to steel it can be very resistant to rust. The answer is to keep a light coat of lubricant on the surface. No water based lubricant. Next and better answer is to have the conversion cylinder Nickel plated. The conversion ring will probably be CCH and you'll be stuck with that.

Coffinmaker

pony express · December 15, 2012, 10:28:13 PM

Will they be gated conversions? If so, what will you do to finish the frame cutout?

Fingers McGee · December 15, 2012, 10:56:03 PM

Quote from: Slowhand Bob on December 07, 2012, 09:26:14 AM
Guys I will be sending a pair of my favorite Pieatts off for Kirst Conversion work pretty soon and have run into a question. First off the guns are the engraved Pietta '51 Sheriffs Models in .44cal, these are the ones that look like stainless. My original plan was to have the Kirst parts polished to white, in an attempt to match the guns. The gunsmith and I agreed that the mix of blue on a gun that already had shiny white and brass parts might look a bit funky. After talking with a dew others I am being told that the different make-up in the steel will cause the parts to discolor/rust differently and look worse than just leaving the parts blue? What you guys thoughts on this? There is one other possibility I could try in order to help that third color situation a bit, get the brass parts plated? There is surely a way to get a close match to the shiny steal? Keep in mind that unlike some of the Conversions I see this one must be kept within a budget limit but I am thinking of doing it in stages with the basic conversion first. I need to get to the gunsmith soon on this as I will be heading south for the holidays, so help with some opinions please. Dawnt be shy, help.

Deblue and polish the conversion parts to a high luster and keep em clean. I put steel BS/TG on one of my Marshal models after I deblued the parts and polished them. They don't rust if you keep em clean and polished. Rennaisance Wax helps.

Graveyard Jack · January 01, 2013, 12:57:43 PM

I've thought about buying one of those for conversion as well. I would have the whole gun, including the conversion cylinder and ring, nickeled.

Slowhand Bob · January 02, 2013, 01:04:56 PM

I am back home now and as soon as the pair are finished I will photo as well as possible, me and cameras do not git along well, and post here. Had the all steel Taylors 44 Pietta pistols been offered before starting I might have tried to go with a pair of those and leave these shiny ones as cap and ball. Fingers, I may go back to that as a plan later, when I can accumulate the money to add ejector rods.

rbertalotto · January 02, 2013, 01:59:28 PM

Quotethese are the ones that look like stainless.

Are they indeed stainless...or are they nickle plated brass frames?

I didn't realize that Pietta ever made the 51 in anything other than carbon steel or brass.............

Slowhand Bob · January 03, 2013, 09:08:17 AM

I hear a lot of claims from people guessing BUT the most believable idea I have heard is that it is not stainless but it is also not what they normally use for their bp line, but is rather a different version that is slightly less corrosive?? The Pietta guy used to follow these boards pretty regularly but seem to have stopped several years back so, sadly, I no longer even remember his cowboy name. We no longer have a truly reliable source of answers that I know can be trusted.

Raven · January 03, 2013, 09:15:18 AM

The ones I've seen (converted) were nickle plated over steel.
Don't know what the alloy is.

Haven't had any problems with polished steel rusting.....but I clean and oil regularly.

Raven

Coffinmaker · January 03, 2013, 02:41:38 PM

Bob,
Your talking about Alesandro Pietta. AKA: Alcamiesta. Great guy.
The Pietta .44 Cal '51 is carbon steel, polished and heat treated. Properly cared for, no more susceptible to rust than a blue gun. Just avoid water based lubricants (Balistol). You might even want to try Boshield T-9.

Coffinmaker

Slowhand Bob · January 04, 2013, 08:47:54 AM

Thanks guys. I do wish he would drop in occasionally, it is always good for the troops when a general takes time to drop in.

Coffinmaker · January 05, 2013, 08:04:42 PM

Hey Bob,

Since you didn't send Your guns to me (good thing - I'm retired now), who's workin on 'em for ya.

Coffinmaker

Slowhand Bob · February 08, 2013, 08:14:05 AM

Guys, I talked with Hoof Hearted by confuser email yestiddy and am having my pistols taken a step farther. I am using this months govt funds to add on the Kirst ejectors to the project guns. Not sure how a three tone pistol will look but as soon as I get them I will add some pictures here.

Mean Bob Mean · February 21, 2013, 12:10:53 AM

Quote from: Slowhand Bob on February 08, 2013, 08:14:05 AM
Not sure how a three tone pistol will look but as soon as I get them I will add some pictures here.

They'll be awesome!