US Fire Arms Co. Collectability in the future?

Started by Virginia Gentleman, January 04, 2013, 09:56:03 PM

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Capt. John Fitzgerald


Gary,
One of the more persistent rumors over the past year has been that USFA has sold off the CNC machines used to produce the SAA.  Is there any truth to this and if so, to what extent?  Is there enough left to start production again, should they decide to do so?  From your statement, "They may come back but with all of the parts subbed out," I would assume that in-house production at present is out of the question.
Also, regarding "subbed out parts;" should USFA reintroduce the SAA, would that mean reverting back to imported parts?
Thank you in advance,
CJF
You can't change the wind, but you can always change your sails.

Deadeye Don

Quote from: GaryG on January 14, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
1. Why did the Remington project fall apart and why didn't USFA ever come out and tell loyal customers what happened?  Ans: ALL decisions on product came from the owner.  We were all surprised that the project didn't move forward but were no apprised as to the reason.  I suspect it was a money issue between Rem & USFA.  I lobbied (unsuccessfully) to build the guns under the USFA banner.

2. Why did USFA venture into all those crazy projects such as the rainbow color SAA?  Ans:  The "rainbow" guns were built but in a full dome blue.  They were the Shooting master (357 mag) and the Sparrow Hawk (8 shot 327 Fed).  The "colors" came from the very top and none of the other employees had a say in the design.  Suffice it to say the only colored guns built were those in the announcement (4 or 5 total).

3. How much input did you have regarding how things were run at USFA since you were basically the one that most of us had contact with?  Ans: Zero


Thank you so much for the replies.  I think you just confirmed what many of us already thought and that is that the decisions made (mistakes)  lay directly on the owner.  It is really a shame about the Remingtons. USFA would have done a fantastic job with those.  I hope you land on your feet and that you stick around CAS City as a permanent member.

Regards.  Don
Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company

rhacpa

First time poster, read this site often hoping to get info on USFA. Now we have it with Mr. Granger joining in.

I want to pay a compliment to Mr. Granger. I am the proud owner of 6 USFA SA's. I collected them over about a 4 year period and in almost each order Mr. Granger was the model of professional contact, patient, helpful and in several cases went beyond the boundry of required assistance in a business transaction to assist me in obtaining MY SAA! The last was the most perfect 44spl/44/40 4 3/4 inch with aged two pieceTruIvory (that i sent to him).  I would challenge anyone to show a SAA finer in detail, fit or finish.

The quality of manufacture is beyond description and only compares to the 1930's colt production. Just fantastic fit, finish and quality.
I am proud of the 6 I own (45 colt 7 in, 45 colt sheriff model with 45 ACP cylinderl, 44/40 frontier six shooter, 32/20, 22 WRF (yes you are reading that right - 22WRF not 22 WMR) and the mentioned 44 spl with a 44/40 cylinder).

I am sorry to see USFA abandon the SAA, but business is business, However ANY gunmanufacturer in this country would do itself a great service to hire Mr. Granger. I would buy any product he represented! He is that gracious. I am glad to hear from him again here on this forum

Doc Sunrise



Billy Bristol

Well I guess since Gary is around I don't need to go by the factory anymore.
Always knew I was born 100 yrs too late.

New Britain, CT

Capt. John Fitzgerald

Gary,
In addition to my above question regarding the CNC machines...

What the heck does ZiP stand for?
You can't change the wind, but you can always change your sails.

North Bender

Gary,

Thanks for signing in!  It is good to hear from you again.

Are you still in the firearm industry?  Some firm could use your common sense and ability to interface with clients.

- NB


Deadeye Don

If anybody wants to buy the 6 "shooting Master" guns made by USFA now is your chance.  According to Gary, these are the only 6 ever made. 

http://www.gunsinternational.com/US-FIREARMS-NEW-ITEM-SHOOTING-MASTER-SERIES-SINGLE-ACTIONS.cfm?gun_id=100075866
Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company

Gen. Jackson

Quote from: Deadeye Don on January 21, 2013, 07:29:47 AM
If anybody wants to buy the 6 "shooting Master" guns made by USFA now is your chance.  According to Gary, these are the only 6 ever made.  

http://www.gunsinternational.com/US-FIREARMS-NEW-ITEM-SHOOTING-MASTER-SERIES-SINGLE-ACTIONS.cfm?gun_id=100075866

They look very ugly. One looks like creame color, another nearly pink, and still another like olive. This set must have been made for the, ummmm..... less than manly among us. Truly aweful.

Another misguided experiment from the master.

Rawhidesmith


Deadeye Don

Quote from: Rawhidesmith on January 22, 2013, 06:41:20 AM
Those things are butt ugly.   :-[

They are indeed and this is one of the "projects" initiated by the Owner which helps explain their demise.
Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company

Major 2

They are the infamous Rainbow guns....
at $1075 they cheaper than the Premium, but with matte finish like the Rodeo, in colors  ::)

aside from the fact they are the only 6 that will ever be... which will appeal to someone perhaps
I don't see the value... at near 2 times a Rodeo.
when planets align...do the deal !

wileycoyote


unbelievable. no wonder they're in so much trouble...    :-\

Billy Bristol

I'm surprised he counted 5 cars.    I know there's probably some questions and I'll answer them.  Some backed up with facts and some just a gut answer.
Gary


Well as Gary stated. He was surprise I even saw 5 vehicles in the parking lot.
Always knew I was born 100 yrs too late.

New Britain, CT

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