Should saddle seats have any lumps or bumps in them?

Started by DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM, June 20, 2011, 07:59:13 PM

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DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

I just got this one and it had lots of bumps and ridges when I rub my hand over the seat.
TIA,
Duke









TwoWalks Baldridge

I vote with the no on this one.  Those bumps are going to create pressure points that will get mighty uncomfortable in a hurry and do physical damage in the future if they hit tendons or nerves.
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DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: "TwoWalks" Baldridge on June 21, 2011, 07:52:19 AM
I vote with the no on this one.  Those bumps are going to create pressure points that will get mighty uncomfortable in a hurry and do physical damage in the future if they hit tendons or nerves.
It's going back then..........
Thanks guys.

Don Nix

I hate that for you but if you remember when you asked about those saddles I tried to warn you. They look pretty but you cant get good quality saddles at the price those things sell for.
if you put a pencil to it ,it doesnt make sense.
A side od wickett and craig or Hermann Oak will run  $150 plus, thats two sides minimum, for $300. then if it has sheepskin lining (and a good shop built saddle should) Add another $150. Then add blevin buckles,conchos, stirrups nails,screws glue,dye  and rings and your  looking at $600 plus before you ever cut a piece of leather. if you add Tapaderos and bags it will more than likely need anothr side of leather  so figure upwards of $800 to start. now figure in labor and done correctly i figure 40 hours labot on a saddle. Dependant upon tooling it can go much higher.
I wont even start a saddle for less than $2000 and thats not bragging its just economics of the business.
Many of these companies are springing up and  stamping these saddles out and calling them hand made customs but al they are doing is stapling to gether a bunch of precut parts. They are machine embossed and stapled together.
I know at least two companies thar are buying saddles in Mexico impoting them and stamping their name on the saddle and selling them for Hand built custom saddles made in Texas. they sell a Trophy saddle for $1000 . their cost is about $300.
looks good but i wouldnt want to ride one.
Save your money and find a good Saddler and get something you can pass down to your grandkids with pride.

DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: Don Nix on June 21, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
I hate that for you but if you remember when you asked about those saddles I tried to warn you. They look pretty but you cant get good quality saddles at the price those things sell for.
if you put a pencil to it ,it doesnt make sense.
A side od wickett and craig or Hermann Oak will run  $150 plus, thats two sides minimum, for $300. then if it has sheepskin lining (and a good shop built saddle should) Add another $150. Then add blevin buckles,conchos, stirrups nails,screws glue,dye  and rings and your  looking at $600 plus before you ever cut a piece of leather. if you add Tapaderos and bags it will more than likely need anothr side of leather  so figure upwards of $800 to start. now figure in labor and done correctly i figure 40 hours labot on a saddle. Dependant upon tooling it can go much higher.
I wont even start a saddle for less than $2000 and thats not bragging its just economics of the business.
Many of these companies are springing up and  stamping these saddles out and calling them hand made customs but al they are doing is stapling to gether a bunch of precut parts. They are machine embossed and stapled together.
I know at least two companies thar are buying saddles in Mexico impoting them and stamping their name on the saddle and selling them for Hand built custom saddles made in Texas. they sell a Trophy saddle for $1000 . their cost is about $300.
looks good but i wouldnt want to ride one.
Save your money and find a good Saddler and get something you can pass down to your grandkids with pride.

That would have been this one from GW Crates.  ;)   http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,38044.0.html

DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

I'm going to try Billy Cook out of OK this time around.

Don Nix


Shotgun Franklin

With the economy like it is there are a bunch of very good used saddles for sale. A used saddle that has been cared for can be a real good deal.  One of the better things about a used saddle is that if you buy local the seller will very likely let you try it out.
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DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: Shotgun Franklin on June 22, 2011, 03:33:45 PM
With the economy like it is there are a bunch of very good used saddles for sale. A used saddle that has been cared for can be a real good deal.  One of the better things about a used saddle is that if you buy local the seller will very likely let you try it out.


We have no local sellers.  ???

Sacramento Johnson

Howdy Duke!

There's a guy on the north side of town that does leather/tack work (ok quality).  Haven't been there in awhile, but he used to have a few used saddles in his little shop as well:

Doc's Saddlery & Leather Rpr
6185 Elkhorn Road, Las Vegas, NV 89131-3042
(702) 361-5456 ‎

There's another place down in Prescott, AZ, that's a wonderful tack shop, called the "Cowboy Corner" and it usually has a plethora of neat used/old-timey saddles (it's were IB got his steal of deal on his slick fork half seat saddle):

http://cowboycorner-az.com/

The web site doesn't list the used stuff he sells, but it's a nice drive down there, the weather is much cooler there than here, and there' some really good antique shops and eateries there, as well as that cool tack shop. Definitely worth a day trip!


DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: Sacramento Johnson on July 07, 2011, 08:20:51 PM
Howdy Duke!

There's a guy on the north side of town that does leather/tack work (ok quality).  Haven't been there in awhile, but he used to have a few used saddles in his little shop as well:

Doc's Saddlery & Leather Rpr
6185 Elkhorn Road, Las Vegas, NV 89131-3042
(702) 361-5456 ‎

There's another place down in Prescott, AZ, that's a wonderful tack shop, called the "Cowboy Corner" and it usually has a plethora of neat used/old-timey saddles (it's were IB got his steal of deal on his slick fork half seat saddle):

http://cowboycorner-az.com/

The web site doesn't list the used stuff he sells, but it's a nice drive down there, the weather is much cooler there than here, and there' some really good antique shops and eateries there, as well as that cool tack shop. Definitely worth a day trip!




Thanks SJ.  ;D GREAT TO HERE FROM YOU GUYS!!!  8)  We picked up 5 of the Billy Cooks recently after returning the one that someone left their keys underneath the seat when they made it. Here's a couple pics of the ones that have arrived. Were waiting for the rest.
Looks like Barbie and I will have to make up a few sets of Tapaderos.
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad54/LEVERACTIONSHOOTERS/SADDLERY/BC.jpg



Waiting on these.

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Shotgun Franklin

And I for one am glad to see saddles without the foam and suede seats on'm.
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DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: Shotgun Franklin on July 07, 2011, 09:28:38 PM
And I for one am glad to see saddles without the foam and suede seats on'm.

+1 on that.
These should hold me until I can cobble together a few Sam Stagg rigged saddles or member Freedom has some spare time.  ;)

DUKE DEADEYE NUKEM

Quote from: Sacramento Johnson on July 07, 2011, 08:20:51 PM
Howdy Duke!

There's a guy on the north side of town that does leather/tack work (ok quality).  Haven't been there in awhile, but he used to have a few used saddles in his little shop as well:

Doc's Saddlery & Leather Rpr
6185 Elkhorn Road, Las Vegas, NV 89131-3042
(702) 361-5456 ‎

There's another place down in Prescott, AZ, that's a wonderful tack shop, called the "Cowboy Corner" and it usually has a plethora of neat used/old-timey saddles (it's were IB got his steal of deal on his slick fork half seat saddle):

http://cowboycorner-az.com/

The web site doesn't list the used stuff he sells, but it's a nice drive down there, the weather is much cooler there than here, and there' some really good antique shops and eateries there, as well as that cool tack shop. Definitely worth a day trip!



A couple more rolled in Sacramento.  ;D
Still waiting on the last four.




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