Twist rates

Started by Steel Horse Bailey, June 26, 2005, 12:52:36 PM

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Steel Horse Bailey

I found out today that my Sharps repro has a 1 in 18" twist rate.  Is that suited better for light, medium or heavy bullets?  When I bought the rifle, I also bought 3 boxes of Remington 350 gr. jacketed bullets to use for reloading until I could find empty brass 45-70 in my area.  Shooting those bullets was a great pleasure because of the accuracy I got.  I had big hopes.

After they were all gone, I'd found some 405 gr. and some 510 gr. lead pills.

I've NEVER been as accurate with any lead bullets as I did with those jacketed ones! :-[

Any ideas out there as to bullet weight I should work with?

Thanks     SHB
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Hemlock Mike

Typically, heavier slugs need a faster twist to stabilize.  Ol' BP loads however always seem to shoot with slower twists.  Go figger !!!!

Maybe a little load data will help us out.    I shoot 32gr of H4198 under 340 and 405 grain cast with good results in Pedersoli rifles.  I'm leavin' the muzzle at about 1350 Fps.

Mike

john boy

SHB, here is a formula to play around with.  Each field can be calulated separately if values are in the other 3 fields.
http://www.uslink.net/~tom1/twistrate.htm
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Silver Creek Slim

According to what I have read, that twist rate should be fine for 500+ gr boolits. Don't ask me to tell ya the source, cuz I don't remember.  ::)

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Delmonico

Most likely someone figured it with the Greenhill formula.  I'll try to drag it out of my notes tonight.

My Pedersoli Sharps has 18 to 1 twist and it shoots the Lyman 457122 fine, this is a 330 gr HP.  The 500 gr RCBS-500-BPS shoots at little better but I weigh the 500 grainers to 1/4 grain and the 330 Hp I only weight to 1/2 grain since is is a hunting bullet.

SHB, one of these next evenings I'll give you a call and I'll pass on what I can, I just hate to type that much.
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Four-Eyed Buck

1 in 18 is about the norm for 45-70's. I believe that was what the Trapdoors had as well. I shoot 405's in my BC and they do pretty well. I use smokeless ,but keep the speeds down in the BP range. XMP-5744 at 18.5g, the 405's, a CCI BR-2 primer in either WW or Rem. cases. Out of the BC's 32"er, gives 1299fps............Buck 8) ::) ;)
I might be slow, but I'm mostly accurate.....

Delmonico

1 in 18 is pretty much the norm for modern replica single shots, but a lot of the originals had slower twists.  I'll check some referances when I get home, just for fun and learnin'. ;D
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Steel Horse Bailey

Thanks, y'all.  I'm not too good at the math involved, but I think if I can A:  get a good load and B:  get a baseline at 100 or 200 yds I'll be on the right track.

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