Anybody see/handle/shot a Cimmaron Armi-sport Sharps?

[Ranch 13]

Bob if a person must buy Italian made sharps , Pedersoli is the way to go. Problem is they are within about 2-300 dollars of a Big Timber built gun. (by the way their basic rifle is a dead knock off of a Shiloh)

[Ranch 13]

Bob one more thing and this is going to sound stupid, but...
Unless you just gotta have the rifle right now at this moment, ordering a Shiloh is the easiest way to pay for one.
You call shiloh place your order and give them the 250$ deposit. Then you've go another 12 months to scrimp and save, and you can send them bits and pieces of money to put on your account. Then when you get the final letter on your gun hopefully all you need do is raid the savings account or send a check for the small amount you have yet to send up there...
Just food for thought.
CSharps you can sort of do the same thing, but as their delivery time is considerably shorter you have to tighten the belt a little tighter....
Enjoy what ever you choose, but do be prepared to spend around 600$ +- for a set of decent sights, altho the factory ladder sight with a bit of shaping on the front sight can give you some pretty good gong whackin fun to 1000 yds.

[Hangtown Frye]

Hey Bob, good to find you here!  I hadn't noticed this thread, as I don't often come into this part of the forum, but welcome!

As I noted to you elsewhere, I've owned and shot both the Italian and Shiloh rifles (I can't say "Big Timber" because mine were made in Farmingdale, NY, before Shiloh moved to Montana).  There was a noticeable difference in the outside looks of the different pieces, but as far as shooting goes, they were neck and neck. In fact, if push came to shove I think I'd have put my money on the Italian version (at least in my case, that is) for accuracy.  Now I'm speaking of the M1859 caplocks, rather than self-contained cartridge rifles, so there are a thousand variables there to nit-pick on, but the bottom line is that while I approved of the overall historical accuracy and finish of the Shiloh in comparison with the Italian example, when it came to shooting, there wasn't much difference.  Certainly not the comma mark in the price tag between the two!  Also, I still have the old Sile, while the Shiloh's are long gone...

As Ranch said above, no one sells their Shiloh or C Sharps to buy an Italian version, while the other is commonplace to see.  But that's generally with the fellows who are doing a LOT of shooting, and to whom those nit-picking variables mean a lot.  A better gun? Yeah, the Montana guns probably are (I would HOPE so at the price difference!), but as far as the Italian Sharps also being a good gun, they are, indeed.  If those nit-picking differences aren't of any serious importance to you, then by all means, buy the Italian version. It will serve you well, for many many years.

Cheers!

Gordon   

[JWB]

I have a quigly with the 34 inch barrel from armi sport, imported by taylor and co.It shoots and handles great so far. ive had a problemwith the set trigger, dosent work and i cant get it readjusted to do so as of now. but it does shoot nicely and ive taken 6 deer and a nice red fox with it so far. all in all for the money i think compared to some other makers it was a good purchase and a good rifle.

[Fox Creek Kid]

With Sharps the "Harley Syndrome" applies. I have never known anyone proud to show their rice burner amidst a group of Harleys nor someone proud to show their Italian Sharps amidst Shilohs (Garrett Sharps the exception).    I have known dozens of Pedersoli & Armisport Sharps owners with buyer's remorse who wished they had waited and bought a Shiloh.

As with all things there is a learning curve which some grasp quicker than others. 

[cpt dan blodgett]

At some time I may develop buyers remorse.  Just got my 2002 Armi Sporting Rifle 32 inch 45/70.  Fit and finish seems pretty good.  Overall it looks like a good servicable rifle, certainly not a collecters work of art, but a utilitarian rifle. 

Set trigger works well and seems to be adjusted properly.  Screws can be easily turned with finger nail, will locktite.  Barrel is .458.  Have not cast chamber but an unsharpened pencil hits the end of the chamber at 2.92 as close as I can mark by feel.  Visually the chamber and barrel appear to be concentric circles.  Wood not fancy but decent.  Bluing OK.  Sent questions to both Taylors and Chiappa last night, had responses when I got to work at 0630 AZ time from both.  Slip fit .417 grain deparado bullet hits rifling at 2.705 COL.

We shall see how it shoots one day.

Given the price I paid, even if the rifle ends up being a training aid and wall hanger, I will come out OK.  Long term goal is a CSharps, but for $600 I get to play until I come off the big bucks.  The MVA sights I buy eventually for the Armi, will save me a group of money on the CSharps.

[Ranch 13]

Only money you'll save is the rear sight. You'll need a different set of screws, and the front sight dovetail on the C Sharps and Shiloh are different sizes and both are bigger than the 3/8 on your Taylors rifle.

[cpt dan blodgett]

Will the rear base work or will I need to come off another $100 for that?  AIR Buffalo Longrange is like $485

[Ranch 13]

Rear base should work fine.
What alot of folks do is just buy bases for the different rifles and then just move the sight staff to which ever rifle gets the call to duty for the day.