tomahawk

Started by Boothill Bob, April 04, 2011, 02:26:33 AM

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Boothill Bob

I want to buy a tomahawk, which was the most common, the French or the British trade Axe?

http://www.gransfors.com/htm_eng/index.html
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rickk

I see yer lookin' at the Cadillac's ;-)   

I've got a Gransfors double bit axe. It bites in nicely.  They ain't cheap, but they are really good.

JimBob

Quote from: Boothill Bob on April 04, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
This may be the wrong Place for this question, you Can move it if you like Ten wolfes.
I want to buy a tomahawk, witch was the moste common, the French or the British trade Axe?
http://www.gransfors.com/htm_eng/index.html

Kinda depends on who what when and where http://furtradetomahawks.tripod.com/index.html

St. George

That's a valid point.

What time frame would you represent and how would you've come by a tomahawk, when they weren't in general use?

The Fur Trapper Era folks dress and equip themselves far differently than Cowboys would.

In any case - I can recommend Wild Rose Trading Company - www.wrtcleather.com

Vaya,

Scouts Out!
"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Boothill Bob

No Rickk, I'm going to buy the Ferrari   ;) I live 40km from Gransfors, and I know that
they making one of the best axes in the world.

JimBob, Tanx for the info. I'm gona use the hawk when I'm hunting and fishing and to wear
With my Trupper outfit.
I think it will be the French tomahawk, it seams light and more easy to handle.
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ChuckBurrows

Bob - for actual use (other than battle) of the two I would recommend the slightly heavier English Model. That little extra weight does make a diference when cutting wood, pounding stakes, etc.
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Frontier Knifemaker & Leathersmith

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

BB;  I'd recommend the English pattern;

http://www.gransfors.com/htm_eng/produkter/replikor/p_britishtradeaxe.html

It is a bit heavier and will likely be more reliable if you are throwing it in muzzle loading/buckskinning competitions.  

Having carried tomahawks and small axes while camping & hunting I still like a bit of weight.  It is a a compromise with portability, but if it won't do the job when you get it there it is a waste of time, kroner, and energy.
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Forty Rod

Are those available in the USA?

If so, where and what's the cost?

I always preferred the French style because it just fit better in my hands.  Something about the angle of the cutting edge being slanted differently.
People like me are the reason people like you have the right to bitch about people like me.

Boothill Bob

Tanx pards.
Its hard to puck One, I will go there on friday and look at them.
My friend Reb sent me an link, I really like this axe. Does any of you
know how the steel is in this hawk? http://pioneerarms.com/throwing_tomahawks.html
Shoot fast and aim straight

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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

Quote from: Boothill Bob on April 06, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
Tanx pards.
Its hard to puck One, I will go there on friday and look at them.
My friend Reb sent me an link, I really like this axe. Does any of you
know how the steel is in this hawk? http://pioneerarms.com/throwing_tomahawks.html

It says it is 4140 cast steel, but I doubt if it is hardened & tempered.  Remember that a throwing 'hawk has to stand up to a lot of damage. It has to be tough, but a keen cutting edge is not required. Gransfors make very good camp/hunting small axes that would be a better choice for those purposes.  Perhaps you can enquire if they can make you a 'hawk tempered for cutting. Ask this question of any supplier if cutting is your main concern.
NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

ChuckBurrows

Best bang for the buck when it comes to hawks are those by H & B Forge - made in the old way by Amish smiths with a hardened steel edge. The Shawnee model is nice but for regular use the Large Camp Axe is better with it's polled head.
http://www.hbforge.com/products/tomahawks.php
aka Nolan Sackett
Frontier Knifemaker & Leathersmith

Boothill Bob

Quote from: Forty Rod on April 06, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
Are those available in the USA?

If so, where and what's the cost?

I always preferred the French style because it just fit better in my hands.  Something about the angle of the cutting edge being slanted differently.

Here you go Forty Rod.. I´ve order a French trade... Will bye a Britich trade later.. http://www.highlandhiker.com/Gransfors-Bruks-French-Trade-Axe-Tomahawk-Historical-Replica-p-703.html
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Forty Rod

Thanks, Bob.  I'll order one as soon as Obama gives me my stimulus money.   ::)
People like me are the reason people like you have the right to bitch about people like me.

Boothill Bob

I've ordered a French One, it fits my use, just splint some Wood for the
Camp fire. Will order a British later.
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JimBob

Quote from: Forty Rod on April 14, 2011, 12:00:16 PM
Thanks, Bob.  I'll order one as soon as Obama gives me my stimulus money.   ::)

LOL Me too.I think for that price I would have a custom maker do one. ;)

Major 2

Years ago I bought the Pierced Lady's Tomahawk
Our Lady's Hawk, has long been a popular item among the ladies and the children, as well as an ideal belt axe for the gentleman. This model has the added nuance of a weeping heart-a common piercing found in many American Indian weapons, including Native American tomahawks.
It must be near 16 years now....

It's still $38 I think that's about what I paid ...great little Hawk, course it won't fell a tree at least while we are still young :-\
when planets align...do the deal !

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